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RockHound

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PonchoandDaddy":cgds2ub2 said:
I'm sorry...I don't usually get involved in conversations of this nature but I feel like I need to. People are trying to HELP your dragon, not you...if you don't care enough to say something more than "no comment" then do it for your defensless dragon.

As someone who has battled a sever chronic illness since age 15, and cancer at 20, I am very upset by your neglect. Had my parents said "well crap she's sick and its just going to be too expensive and too much work to deal with so I give up and no comment" I would be dead, long gone and forgotten. Your dragon doesn't have any hope for survival that doesn't come from you. Have half a heart and show some responsibilty.

BRAVO! <3
 

PonchoandDaddy

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You're right, no one was giving you a hard time until my post but that's because I can't stand to see helpless animals be mistreated or neglected. You may have taken excellent care of them in the past but giving up on them in the present is just that. That would be like my parents saying "but we loved her so much and took such good care of her until she became a very expensive brittle insulin dependant diabetic...there is no cure so I give up." Seriously? Recommending what you should or shouldn't do is what advice is...its what you do with it that determines the effectiveness. I'm not trying to step on your toes or argue, trust me...I'm just being honest. If what I say is hitting a nerve then that means you know its true...giving up is irresponsible. And no...it is NOT like putting a dog down. Putting a pet down is NOT giving up...it is giving them one final, selfless gift when their time has come. What you are doing is simply saying you don't want to deal with it and if that's the case, do the right thing and give her to a rescue or someone else here that does want to deal with it. There is help to be had, let her have it.
 

speedyfuzzball

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Hi, I remember you from my thread.. you were upset because no one was offering advice on your own and now that people are, you're just brushing them off. I don't understand.. Why ask for help when you don't actually want it? You claimed that your dragons were your world and you cared for them very much but if you really love them, you need to do what's best for them. I understand that you don't want to give them up but wouldn't you rather do that than have them suffer for even longer? If your dragons need help now, it could mean the difference between life and death. They are people willing to help you and your dragons! You said if they die, there's nothing that can be done, but that's where you're wrong! There is something that can be done for them.. If you've really given up, then at least your dragons a chance.. please
 

PudgysMom

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No. The members don't need to "chill". You need to get your priorities straight. You want to neglect your own health, so be it. But don't neglect the health of innocent animals because you're too selfish to do the right thing.

I usually try to give the benefit of the doubt, but your blasé attitude is very alarming and concerning.

Please do the right thing and give your beardies to people who have the time and resources to properly nurse them back to health.
 

LindseyDawn

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Well, if you were a bit more articulate I'm sure more people would be willing to help. No offense, but I can hardly understand half of what you are saying. I don't think anyone is purposely attacking or trying to offend you. It just seems that no one can get through to you. I really hope your dragon is going to be okay.
 

bayoupig5

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Pantherchameleon":2s5zqtxq said:
The members that post on this topic need to chili out. They ain't going to die there not that bad. The problems at hand will be taken care of soon. They will live til there 12 years or older just like my 12 year old. Lashing out and threatening me isn't helping them. I have took advice from this forum and used it if you think so or not. I have no problem with leaving I was doing fine on my own. Just had a few minor issues I couldn't figure out on my own so I came here for advice. I care about all of them and know what dragon likes what he likes food wise. My dragons have trust in me and giving up isn't happening. I have to do this on my own getting them food and getting them into the vet why can't you people see that. Do I have any trust in someone that will do the same nope. There you have it agree or disagree but will have long happy lives after this block in my path. You name it all you can eat buffets and a resolution to there health problems. But again am not giving up on any of them. I haven't with my 12 year old and at the moment can't eat on his own even a superworm. But was lean pretty much all of last month and gain weight and strengthened up a lot. I believe if I had a superworm he could do it and have so much faith in the little guy. If I gave up on him he would be dead. That is all am saying because am still going to be a neglectful owner to all of you. I can't change that but my dragons health I can. End of my story for all of you and this site. Have a great nite ahead.

I have read this thread, and other threads of yours. I have not felt like anyone on this site was "lashing out" or "threatening" you in any way. You asked for help and advice and you got it, whether you liked it or not, you got what you came here for. I think what you are sensing is sheer frustration, from all the members here who are genuinely concerned for the well being or you pets, and you lack of openness to the idea of sacrificing your desire to be the savior of you animals, and your apathetic stance overall. You do not have the funds to even feed them at the moment, and for some reason you are sure that you can be the one to save them. Forgive me for saying this, but it's a dead end road.

And just like speedyfuzzball said, you are upset when no one gives you advice, and upset when we do, so I am not sure what you are wanting from us here. Our hands are tied, we offer you help and solutions, and all you have are excuses that are beneficial to yourself, and your stance.

This is not an attack, just an observation. Part of responsible pet ownership is knowing when all you can do is not enough, and sometimes your feelings and desires need to be re examined for the benefit of the animal involved. As a long term, multi pet owner, I have encountered several instances where sacrifice was needed on my part to the advantage of my pet.

Good Luck.
 

RainMaiden

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I'm very happy to see that you are stepping up and getting vet care. However, I am greatly concerned by the fact that you now have two sick beardies and no money. Getting them seen by the vet isn't even the really expensive part. Treatment for the illness/injury is what hurts your bank account. :(
 

RockHound

Hatchling Member
I've never heard of sepsis in bearded dragons. Septicemia is basically microbes causing infections in the bloodstream and organs. They are essentially running rampant in the body. That dragon is going to need fluids via IV and antibiotics. Treatment will probably be out of your price range, and untreated will probably result in death via organ or renal failure.
 

Katie007

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Wow, I've been following this thread since the beginning but kept my mouth shut because everyone else was saying what I was thinking anyway. But seriously... SURRENDER TO A RESCUE. Please. Its breaking my heart that you're just sentencing your dragon to suffer. You have been told that there is a resuce you can give her too, I don't understand why you wouldn't, knowing you can't provide the care she needs. There are people who are extremely knowledgable and willing to take her on. Please don't be so stubborn and think about the helpless life that you're responsible for.
 

RainMaiden

Member
Pantherchameleon":32cq8pi9 said:
To make this my last message on this site because am going in circles. There's nothing I can do and will spend as much time as I can with her. I don't have close to thousand dollars to keep her alive. Thank you everyone for advice and story's and what not. This is way to much to handle at the moment and not getting slendered here. Her time has come to a end. Done period..........

In response to the bold... there is something you can do, but for some reason you refuse to do it.

Give the dragon to someone that can afford treatment or have the animal euthanized.

Do not do NOTHING and let her suffer.
 
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