My beardie is coughing and shaking help please

[Dkomninos]

Today my bearded dragon started coughing and shaking and I think something is in his throat . He will run around his cage and sometimes scrape his head on the ground.

 

[KarrieRee]

Please post a pic of the tank and lighting -- what are your basking temps and how are you taking them? What UVB are you using? No coils please ----- what are you feeding and how big are the insects? Have you looked in his mouth to see if there is anything there? You may need a second person to look and use a flashlight to really see if anything is in there -- try using a credit card to open his mouth go in from the side and slide it in to get him to open

 

[Dkomninos]

Please post a pic of the tank and lighting -- what are your basking temps and how are you taking them? What UVB are you using? No coils please ----- what are you feeding and how big are the insects? Have you looked in his mouth to see if there is anything there? You may need a second person to look and use a flashlight to really see if anything is in there -- try using a credit card to open his mouth go in from the side and slide it in to get him to open

I am using a 150 watt bulb with uvb built in. His basking area is around 100 degrees and he’s 5 months old, we gave him water and he seems to be doing better but hasn’t eaten yet I will post a pic when I get home. I have a thermostat from the pet store in his tank. and we feed him small sized dubia roaches

 

[KarrieRee]

150 watt w/ UVB is it a MVB? A all in one UVB/ basking? What brand -- please get a digital probe thermometer ASAP to get accurate basking temps - hes not going to eat w/ out proper basking temps and proper UVB -- please post a pic of the tank and lighting so we can better help
https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ click on XIMG at the top of the message box then click in the pic it should post --- I am going to be posting bunch of info for you -
http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Nutrition.html ignore the kale thing its a good staple feeder
salads need to be fed every morning -- I would get some BSFL from here order large DO NOT DUST-www.symptonbsf.com -- add to the tops of his salads as lures to the salad bowl use as many as you want they are a great staple feeder and a good compliment to the dubias -- • https://www.amazon.com/MACGOAL-Reptile-Ceramic-Leopard-Bearded/dp/B084VJJWTV?pf_rd_r=R0HNPKXJ2ZARWAT5MPAH&pf_rd_p=c5b6893a-24f2-4a59-9d4b-aff5065c90ec&pd_rd_r=0173f98f-f39b-4d44-9f76-6ae4d88c419b&pd_rd_w=AuGQB&pd_rd_wg=tLkwE&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d
Make sure your dusting the dubias 5 x per week w/ calcium D3 ONCE per feeding lighting coated and Vitamins w/ beta carotene 2 x per week ONCE per feeding lightly coated
The basking temps and UVB are the TWO MOST important things in the tank so those need to be corrected first before he will eat -- once I see what is in the tank I can help you get it fixed so we need to work on that first -- you need 2 of these one for the basking side and one for the cool side
https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/environmental-control-and-lighting/zoo-med-reptile-terrarium-digital-thermometer-14914.html?cgid=500202

 

[Dkomninos]

150 watt w/ UVB is it a MVB? A all in one UVB/ basking? What brand -- please get a digital probe thermometer ASAP to get accurate basking temps - hes not going to eat w/ out proper basking temps and proper UVB -- please post a pic of the tank and lighting so we can better help
https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ click on XIMG at the top of the message box then click in the pic it should post --- I am going to be posting bunch of info for you -
http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Nutrition.html ignore the kale thing its a good staple feeder
salads need to be fed every morning -- I would get some BSFL from here order large DO NOT DUST-www.symptonbsf.com -- add to the tops of his salads as lures to the salad bowl use as many as you want they are a great staple feeder and a good compliment to the dubias -- • https://www.amazon.com/MACGOAL-Reptile-Ceramic-Leopard-Bearded/dp/B084VJJWTV?pf_rd_r=R0HNPKXJ2ZARWAT5MPAH&pf_rd_p=c5b6893a-24f2-4a59-9d4b-aff5065c90ec&pd_rd_r=0173f98f-f39b-4d44-9f76-6ae4d88c419b&pd_rd_w=AuGQB&pd_rd_wg=tLkwE&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d
Make sure your dusting the dubias 5 x per week w/ calcium D3 ONCE per feeding lighting coated and Vitamins w/ beta carotene 2 x per week ONCE per feeding lightly coated
The basking temps and UVB are the TWO MOST important things in the tank so those need to be corrected first before he will eat -- once I see what is in the tank I can help you get it fixed so we need to work on that first -- you need 2 of these one for the basking side and one for the cool side
https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/environmental-control-and-lighting/zoo-med-reptile-terrarium-digital-thermometer-14914.html?cgid=500202

We have had him for a month and he is eating 10-20 roaches a day we had help getting his setup from the store Im not going to be home for 6 hours so I’ll post it then, it’s a all in one bulb I think it’s zoo-med brand? We offer veggies but he rarely eats them with the pollen dusting on it

 

[KarrieRee]

Ok once I see what the UVB is I can better help --- pet stores are not the best for getting help and set up --- most do not know how to care for dragons sadly --- I can help you get him eating but we must start w/ the basking temps and the UVB --- imperative!!!!!

 

[Dkomninos]

Ok once I see what the UVB is I can better help --- pet stores are not the best for getting help and set up --- most do not know how to care for dragons sadly --- I can help you get him eating but we must start w/ the basking temps and the UVB --- imperative!!!!!

The bulb is a Repti zoo super sun UV 160w and I’ll attach a photo of his house, the second bulb is a 100w purple light by zoo med for night time. https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/

 

[KarrieRee]

Pics did not post then need to download then when you click on the XIMG at the top of the message box click on the pic it should post -- it will come up in the message box w/ a bunch of letters / numbers that the pic when you hit submit the pic will show

Please get rid of the purple bulb -- dragons need dark and cool to sleep and the purple bulb is disturbing his sleep plus it can cause long term eye damage - dragons have a 3rd on on top of their heads for predators and that light is not good - they have better eye sight than we do -- please get rid of the UV Super Sun it is a off yellow or yellowish bulb -- you want a bright white basking bulb - if you want to stay w/ a UVB get a Power Sun or Mega Ray -- but your gonna haft to invest in a long tube fixture as well - the MVB do not emit enough UVB for dragons and we often recommending getting a long tube to make sure UVB is covered -- so w/ that in mind I would change out the lighting system all together --- get a Zoo Med or Sunblaster Nano or a Arcadia Pro T 5 w/ a Reptisun 10.0 T 5 or Arcadia 12% bulb - you want a 24" fixture and a 22" bulb -- I would get either the Zoo Med or the Sunblaster Nano - the Pro T 5's are sold out --
https://www.pangeareptile.com/collections/light-fixtures/products/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-hood?variant=26907425734756
You will need to order the 10.0 T 5 the fixture comes w/ a 5.0 you can hang onto it for a back up but placement and distance is different from the 10.0 bulb https://www.pangeareptile.com/collections/t5-lighting/products/zoo-med-reptisun-10-0-uvb-t5?variant=26907418591332 22" bulb
https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html?opts=eyJhdHRyaWJ1dGU5MDEiOiI2NjA0In0= get the 24" fixture
Your dragon will not eat w/ out correct basking temps and properly placed UVB --- please order this ASAP ---- the shaking is not good --- MBD could be the cause -- when you get the UVB please post back on here so I can help you get it set up
The basking bulb needs to be a bright white bulb that keeps temps 105-110 for a baby ---95-100 for a adult / juvie dragon -- please adjust accordingly and make sure your using a digital probe thermometer

 

[Dkomninos]

Pics did not post then need to download then when you click on the XIMG at the top of the message box click on the pic it should post -- it will come up in the message box w/ a bunch of letters / numbers that the pic when you hit submit the pic will show

Please get rid of the purple bulb -- dragons need dark and cool to sleep and the purple bulb is disturbing his sleep plus it can cause long term eye damage - dragons have a 3rd on on top of their heads for predators and that light is not good - they have better eye sight than we do -- please get rid of the UV Super Sun it is a off yellow or yellowish bulb -- you want a bright white basking bulb - if you want to stay w/ a UVB get a Power Sun or Mega Ray -- but your gonna haft to invest in a long tube fixture as well - the MVB do not emit enough UVB for dragons and we often recommending getting a long tube to make sure UVB is covered -- so w/ that in mind I would change out the lighting system all together --- get a Zoo Med or Sunblaster Nano or a Arcadia Pro T 5 w/ a Reptisun 10.0 T 5 or Arcadia 12% bulb - you want a 24" fixture and a 22" bulb -- I would get either the Zoo Med or the Sunblaster Nano - the Pro T 5's are sold out --
https://www.pangeareptile.com/collections/light-fixtures/products/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-hood?variant=26907425734756
You will need to order the 10.0 T 5 the fixture comes w/ a 5.0 you can hang onto it for a back up but placement and distance is different from the 10.0 bulb https://www.pangeareptile.com/collections/t5-lighting/products/zoo-med-reptisun-10-0-uvb-t5?variant=26907418591332 22" bulb
https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html?opts=eyJhdHRyaWJ1dGU5MDEiOiI2NjA0In0= get the 24" fixture
Your dragon will not eat w/ out correct basking temps and properly placed UVB --- please order this ASAP ---- the shaking is not good --- MBD could be the cause -- when you get the UVB please post back on here so I can help you get it set up
The basking bulb needs to be a bright white bulb that keeps temps 105-110 for a baby ---95-100 for a adult / juvie dragon -- please adjust accordingly and make sure your using a digital probe thermometer

he is perfectly active and eats well but I will put a uvb and a new bulb. Is there any way I can send a video of what he was doing when I meant “shaking” Because maybe u are misunderstanding he doesn’t have MBD. I will get the new bulbs and fix his lighting, anyways is his house set up fine?

 

[KarrieRee]

The shaking is concerning --- he should not be shaking and it is a characteristic of MBD-- record on your tube then post the link -- you want good UVB and a bright white basking bulb -- no off white or yellowish bulbs --- this is imperative to the over all health and behavior of the dragon

 

[Dkomninos]

The shaking is concerning --- he should not be shaking and it is a characteristic of MBD-- record on your tube then post the link -- you want good UVB and a bright white basking bulb -- no off white or yellowish bulbs --- this is imperative to the over all health and behavior of the dragon

He was shaking while coughing trying to dislodge something , overnight he is better and he probably fixed it but I will still replace my bulbs and do what you said I will send a link of the video I have from yesterday

 

[KarrieRee]

ok

 

[Dkomninos]

ok

Thank you so much by the way

 

[Dkomninos]

ok

He ate 5 roaches just now and is doing great he got it out overnight and I gave him water thank you! We placed the new uvb bar on his tank

 

[KarrieRee]

Ok what did you get ? Brand and bulb please -- they have certain distance and placement