alpha?

[dragonjim]

how do you know which is beardie is the alpha?

 

[Kalec]

There is no alpha because 1) "alpha" is a term used to describe an adult parent wolf, and 2) bearded dragons are solitary animals and should not be housed together. One will always be bullied and not receive enough UVB/food at the very best. At worse, you may end up with a dead dragon. Hope this helps!

 

[dragonjim]

There is no alpha because 1) "alpha" is a term used to describe an adult parent wolf, and 2) bearded dragons are solitary animals and should not be housed together. One will always be bullied and not receive enough UVB/food at the very best. At worse, you may end up with a dead dragon. Hope this helps!

but which is the domnient one?

 

[midmichicer]

There should never be a dominant. A male will dominate a female, but that is it. Two males should never meet.

 

[Cath1068]

Niether would be dominate because they are solitary animals. They do not live in packs or have family structures. Only animals that live in structered packs have a hierarchy like wolves, elephants ,etc. In dragons as they previous poster said they will kill eachother and take all the best basking spots and food if housed together. Its a no win situation with the smaller/weaker one paying the ultimate price. Hope this helps.

Cathy

 

[aussiefreak101]

Taking the term alpha out of the picture you can tell which one will be the attacker simply by size if not by gender. The bigger female will be the bully, the male then over the female generally. A smaller dragon you can sometimes observe doing an 'arm wave' to a larger dragon...kinda like a 'I come in peace, don't hurt me so I can get away'.

 

[Esther19]

Simply put, that alpha male is the one that kills the other one.

 

[dragonjim]

Taking the term alpha out of the picture you can tell which one will be the attacker simply by size if not by gender. The bigger female will be the bully, the male then over the female generally. A smaller dragon you can sometimes observe doing an 'arm wave' to a larger dragon...kinda like a 'I come in peace, don't hurt me so I can get away'.

thank you but and I understand that they are solitary animals and have no set dominent one but even in these cases one dominants the other one in territory, the ability to scare away competion would make one more dominant than the other, and as for their size ones longer but the other is wider, so of these which has the best advantage

 

[trickyspark]

thank you but and I understand that they are solitary animals and have no set dominent one but even in these cases one dominants the other one in territory, the ability to scare away competion would make one more dominant than the other, and as for their size ones longer but the other is wider, so of these which has the best advantage

I can't figure out why it matters really. If you're housing them together, then you know they're going to fight eventually and either A one gets killed/maimed or B both get maimed/killed . If you're not housing them together, then just say the biggest is the "alpha" and be happy.

 

[Cath1068]

thank you but and I understand that they are solitary animals and have no set dominent one but even in these cases one dominants the other one in territory, the ability to scare away competion would make one more dominant than the other, and as for their size ones longer but the other is wider, so of these which has the best advantage

I can't figure out why it matters really. If you're housing them together, then you know they're going to fight eventually and either A one gets killed/maimed or B both get maimed/killed . If you're not housing them together, then just say the biggest is the "alpha" and be happy.

Nuff said. I dont really understand why it matters as well as it is written all over this forum the real dangers of keeping 2 or more dragons together so why do it ? It will end up ugly and most likely you may incur a very costly vet bill or the life and well being of the weaker/smaller dragon.

Sorry for sounding so ugly but this really annoys me that people know the dangers but yet still think they can pull it off. I am very passionate in my love of beardies and hate seeing them get hurt for nothing.

 

[dragonjim]

I can't afford to get what I need for the new tank, I know what I need but can't afford it. So I wanted to know. I understand the dangers, the primary one being the basking spot since I feed them separately.

thank you but and I understand that they are solitary animals and have no set dominent one but even in these cases one dominants the other one in territory, the ability to scare away competion would make one more dominant than the other, and as for their size ones longer but the other is wider, so of these which has the best advantage

I can't figure out why it matters really. If you're housing them together, then you know they're going to fight eventually and either A one gets killed/maimed or B both get maimed/killed . If you're not housing them together, then just say the biggest is the "alpha" and be happy.

Nuff said. I dont really understand why it matters as well as it is written all over this forum the real dangers of keeping 2 or more dragons together so why do it ? It will end up ugly and most likely you may incur a very costly vet bill or the life and well being of the weaker/smaller dragon.

Sorry for sounding so ugly but this really annoys me that people know the dangers but yet still think they can pull it off. I am very passionate in my love of beardies and hate seeing them get hurt for nothing.

 

[trickyspark]

I had a friend that kept his dragon in a $10.00 rubbermaid container temporarily until he could get a bigger tank. It was a 40 gallon container, roughly the same size and shape as a 40 gallon glass aquarium.

I just don't understand why it matters which is stronger though. If you understand the dangers of not seperating them, then why care which one is strongest? Do you mind clarifying why you are concerned which one is stronger so I can stop being confused?

The stronger one could still sustain an injury fighting the weaker one and be the one that winds up dying. Is the "stronger" one going to be put on a leash or some kind of restraint? I'm soooo confused


Maybe I'm stupid :roll:

 

[suzjohnson]

Well, look at it this way. If you were locked in a small room with a total bully that scared you to death, even though you were able to get enough to eat, you wouldn't thrive. You would become just a shadow of the person you could have been.

Suz

 

[Esther19]

Well said, Suz!

 

[Dracosmommy]

I am trying to understand this question about alpha. Everybody here is telling you that you shouldn't house two beardies together so your question about alpha doesn't make sense. My question is though why have a second beardie if you can't even afford all the other stuff for the tank??? Are you going to be able to afford all the crickets/dubias and other food that this beardie is goig to eat? Sorry to the OP and I don't mean to be rude or ugly so please excuse me if it sounds that way. No disrespect intended here at all. I would have made sure I could afford a second beardie and I had everything in place first before buying the beardie. Even if you rescued it or someone gave it to you. As everyone knows here keeping one beardie let lone two can be and is expensive. I also know that beardies pull at our heartstrings and we just jump in sometimes without thinking first. I've done it myself, not with beardies though. Just my humble opinion though!!