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NathanNatalie3002

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Hello! Thankyou for your response, I know I seem a pain but is it possible you could advise me on my questions in the last 3 posts? Just about general food etc, if I had a little routine going on that would be perfect for me and Chacoby, I explain why I am confused in my previous threads. Yes I got 1ml of it and it is in a glass bottle, I have a 1.0ml syringe. I also wanted to try get something fattening in her before I started this... Chacoby is hard to get to open her mouth at the minute, so i have no hoice but to use the metal feeder needle that goes to her throat, I dont push it down though. If I use this for the meds, that will be okay to use for food aswell, just make sure I clean it afterwards?


Sorry to be a pain
 

dragonlover3

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Hi,
Sounds like that vet was obnoxious :roll: But it is wonderful you got the Baytril, I guess he was good for something. :banghead:
The food you got for her is fine, no worries, at this point just getting some food into her is great.

The Baytril is harsh so you will want to give her a little bit of food first so she isn't taking it on an empty tummy. You will want
to keep her very hydrated while on the Baytril.

Give the probiotic about 4 hours, more or less, after the Baytril dose unless Tracie advises differently.
Either the Avipro or the soy yogurt is good. I'm not familiar with the Avipro so maybe someone can advise on that.
When my beardies were sick, I gave them the soy yogurt for the probiotics but also because it was extra nutrition.


I'm not sure what dioralyte is. Is like Pedialyte in this country, an electrolyte replacement fluid? If it is like Pedialyte
I would dilute it about 1/3 electrolyte fluid to 2/3 water and use that for diluting her food and for drinking or mixing
anything she needs for now. Others may dilute it differently but that is how I did it when my Beardies were sick.
I don't know how everyone else will feel about the blackurrant dioralyte but my thought is if that's what you have
available, use it. If it is only a flavoring, it won't change the value of the electrolytes in the fluid and that's what your
little one needs.


I'd skip the baths for now, not good for her respiratory status and she is exhausted. She will get hydration with
the fluid you dilute the baby food with.

That's all I can think of at the moment, I hope it helps!

It is excellent you sleep her on a hot water bottle to keep her warm at night. The name of the game is improvise with what you have!


I'm not sure where in the UK to get a probe thermometer, sorry.

I'm rooting for your little one!
Amanda
 

NathanNatalie3002

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Hello Amanda, thank you very much. Even in the states is fine, I can ship to UK. Or a make and model? I will find one here. Yes Blackcurrant is all I had I think it is just like with fruit juice or something. (Same as Dioralyte.) So if I am using the yoghurt would you not bother to use the avipro? just always mix dioralyte and water with her food, and the yoghurt added now and again?
 

NightFury

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Idk it you have a Walmart in the UK but a store like that may carry the fixture you need. You can buy the bulb online like eBay or a local pet store may carry it, a store that sells reptile supplies would most likely have it. Yeah u could use that pedialyte but since it is flavored you would want to dilute it. She may be fine with plain water with it, hard to tell w/o photos If she is dehydrated and needs it. Do her eyes look sunk in? The avipro Is good to use when you are giving meds that are a bit harsh like baytril. Tracie should tell you how much to use or if you should use the yogurt with it or one without the other. Sorry for the late replies, I'm at work.
 

NightFury

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You can also find that thermometer at a place like Walmart that also has humidity on it. a pet store that also has an aquarium section may believe it or not (it wont have hunidity) lol but eBay is a site that has alot of stuff and is trustworthy I'm sure u prob heard of it or used it before. Be sure your light fixture doesn't have a plastic cover that blocks the light. I wrote more about that in a previous post on here where u asked alot of questions
 

NightFury

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Protein may fatten her up like a meat baby food perhaps. A turkey or chicken would have good protein amounts.
 

NathanNatalie3002

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I read they were not allowed chicken, but seen a lot of suggestions for it, so it would be good I think, I could alternate the baby foods I give her right? Seen as chicken won't be her staple diet as an adult it should be okay :)
 

NightFury

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Hmm odd lol if ur worried about the chicken you can do turkey instead. Yeah u will want to give those in moderation
 

Drache613

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Hello,

Great that you have a 1ml syringe. Dilute the Baytril now to a less concentrated solution for ease of dosing. Dilute 2mls (50mgs) with 20mls or .67 ounces of sterile water. The strength of the solution will be 2.5mg/ml then. Her dose will be .04ml.
I would give the medication alone, with no food initially to allow absorption. An hour or so later, then you can feed her. The probiotics should be given later in the day so her medication & food can assimilate better.
The chicken or turkey baby food is fine. The Avipro or non dairy soy yogurt either one is fine as the probiotic but you really don't need to use both though. Be careful with the feeding so she doesn't aspirate any of it. Plus, as we have suggested, avoid the baths right now. She is too tired & worn out to deal with extra stress right now.
The hot water bottles are great to use at night, to help keep her warm, also.

Let me know if you have any questions on the dosing.

Tracie
 

dragonlover3

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Hi,
Tracie posted "I would give the medication alone, with no food initially to allow absorption. An hour or so later, then you can feed her. The probiotics should be given later in the day so her medication & food can assimilate better."

I just wanted to say ALWAYS follow Tracie's advice above mine, she is the expert here! I had incorrectly said to give food with the Baytril as that is what I did while my dragons were on Baytril. It's probably why it took longer for the Baytril to work on mine.....and thank you Tracie, I never fail to learn something from you! :notworthy:
Amanda
 

Drache613

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Hello,

Please keep us posted on her. I know she is very critical right now. :(

Amanda, it is no problem! You are very intelligent, don't sell yourself short! :oops:
It is so hard to keep up with everything on reptiles, as they are such complicated little souls!

Tracie
 

Valerie

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Maybe that is why Baytril did not knock my bd URI. I then went on reptiad and it seemed to work but now she has it again. I am starting the retaid back up. I guess if that does not do it I could do the baytril but do it how Tracie says. Thanks
 

NathanNatalie3002

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Hello guys, I've not started the Baytril as I was a little confused with some stuff, I have PMd Tracy again. Chacoby isn't gasping anymore, if she doesn't have a UR I'm hoping it won't harm! She has also started fighting with the syringe when it goes to her throat which is more than shes done in days, still not moving I went out earlier and she was in the same place as always. Hopefully she will fight through :)

Just a quick question, Xena looked like she choked slightly on a cricket earlier- then chewed again and swallowed I have increased the size but they are fine for her... She still carried on fine eating etc after should I be worried? Don't want another poorly one :( I am a massive worrier though haha I watch them all the time!
 

NightFury

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Just as long as what you are feeding is no longer than the space between her eyes she will be ok. Just be sure she has a bowel movement in the next two days.
 
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