Beardie not growing well
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NegativeCreep
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My baby is growing, just not quite as fast as I think she should. She doesn't have the appetite like many others her age..
So, I got a MVB. I'm pretty sure my UVB strip is crap, so I figured I would get her the best I could. I already have my MegaRay, but I get my fixture here on Thursday... hopefully we will see if it works.
What are your cage conditions like?
So, I got a MVB. I'm pretty sure my UVB strip is crap, so I figured I would get her the best I could. I already have my MegaRay, but I get my fixture here on Thursday... hopefully we will see if it works.
What are your cage conditions like?
Catalyst
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If you could answer the questions below, we can take a look at her housing and husbandry and see if there are any factors that which might be affecting her growth. Each dragon grows at its own rate, but it doesn't hurt to double check everything.
How old is your dragon?
How long is she?
Where did you get her from?
How long have you had her?
What size tank is she in?
What substrate are you using?
What do you use to heat the tank?
What are the temperatures (basking spot and cool side) in the tank?
What do you use to measure the temperatures?
What UVB light do you use?
Is it a flourescent tube, compact bulb, or MVB?
How old is it?
How close can your dragon get to it?
What do you feed your dragon?
How much and how often?
What supplements do you use?
How often?
Do you mist or bath your dragon?
How often?
Is your dragon housed alone?
How old is your dragon?
How long is she?
Where did you get her from?
How long have you had her?
What size tank is she in?
What substrate are you using?
What do you use to heat the tank?
What are the temperatures (basking spot and cool side) in the tank?
What do you use to measure the temperatures?
What UVB light do you use?
Is it a flourescent tube, compact bulb, or MVB?
How old is it?
How close can your dragon get to it?
What do you feed your dragon?
How much and how often?
What supplements do you use?
How often?
Do you mist or bath your dragon?
How often?
Is your dragon housed alone?
jfm08
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Re: Beardie not growing well
New postby Catalyst on Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:47 am
If you could answer the questions below, we can take a look at her housing and husbandry and see if there are any factors that which might be affecting her growth. Each dragon grows at its own rate, but it doesn't hurt to double check everything.
How old is your dragon?
How long is she?
Where did you get her from?
How long have you had her?
What size tank is she in?
What substrate are you using?
What do you use to heat the tank? two arizona heat lights and a UBB (Reptisun)
What are the temperatures (basking spot and cool side) in the tank? 85-90 and 75-80 at night she likes the coolside at 68*
What do you use to measure the temperatures? Digital thermometers
What UVB light do you use? 10.0 reptisun
Is it a flourescent tube, compact bulb, or MVB? flourescent tube
How old is it? i bought her around July from a pet store so i am guessing 6-7 months
How close can your dragon get to it? her repti-net allows her to get about a foot or less from it
What do you feed your dragon? crickets, repti-diest, and starting with salads more now
How much and how often? she doesnt eat crickets everyday but she does eat them often.
Do you mist or bath your dragon?No i do not, would this be the cause?
Is your dragon housed alone? Yes, 50 Gallon
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Re: Beardie not growing well
New postby Catalyst on Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:47 am
If you could answer the questions below, we can take a look at her housing and husbandry and see if there are any factors that which might be affecting her growth. Each dragon grows at its own rate, but it doesn't hurt to double check everything.
How old is your dragon?
How long is she?
Where did you get her from?
How long have you had her?
What size tank is she in?
What substrate are you using?
What do you use to heat the tank? two arizona heat lights and a UBB (Reptisun)
What are the temperatures (basking spot and cool side) in the tank? 85-90 and 75-80 at night she likes the coolside at 68*
What do you use to measure the temperatures? Digital thermometers
What UVB light do you use? 10.0 reptisun
Is it a flourescent tube, compact bulb, or MVB? flourescent tube
How old is it? i bought her around July from a pet store so i am guessing 6-7 months
How close can your dragon get to it? her repti-net allows her to get about a foot or less from it
What do you feed your dragon? crickets, repti-diest, and starting with salads more now
How much and how often? she doesnt eat crickets everyday but she does eat them often.
Do you mist or bath your dragon?No i do not, would this be the cause?
Is your dragon housed alone? Yes, 50 Gallon
peera
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I'm not sure the baths would be affecting her size, but she needs bathed because it's the primary way they stay hydrated. (Although my undersized girl was never bathed before me either, so there could be a connection I don't know about.)
Your basking spot is WAY cold, it needs to be between 98-110, on the higher end the younger the dragon is. I'm surprised 2 heat bulbs wouldn't get it up high enough, mine are fine with regular household 60w bulbs... she'll probably eat more once you get the temps up too, since it makes it easier on them to digest. You don't need to leave the lights on at night as long as your house doesn't dip into the 50's, it can disturb their sleep. If you leave them on because you're afraid you won't remember to turn them on at the same time every day, get one of those things that will turn them on and off automatically. (I've forgotten the name.)
Your basking spot is WAY cold, it needs to be between 98-110, on the higher end the younger the dragon is. I'm surprised 2 heat bulbs wouldn't get it up high enough, mine are fine with regular household 60w bulbs... she'll probably eat more once you get the temps up too, since it makes it easier on them to digest. You don't need to leave the lights on at night as long as your house doesn't dip into the 50's, it can disturb their sleep. If you leave them on because you're afraid you won't remember to turn them on at the same time every day, get one of those things that will turn them on and off automatically. (I've forgotten the name.)
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What size tank is she in?
What substrate are you using?
What do you use to heat the tank? two arizona heat lights and a UBB (Reptisun)
Your basking spot is only 85-90? Generally its recommended that a young dragon's basking spot be in the 100-110*F range. You can use a halogen flood light or a regular light bulb for heat - no need to pay extra for a pet store heat bulb. All you need is something that puts off clear light and enough heat to get your temps up.
It's coming time to replace the bulb. Unless you have a UVB meter to measure the output of the bulb, it's recommended that you replace a flourescent tube UVB bulb every 6 months to ensure that your dragon is getting the UVB that she needs to thrive.
You want to aim for 6-8 inches from the bulb in order for her to get optimal rays. Does the UVB light overlap her basking spot? It's ideal if she can soak up UVB while she's basking.
Does she refuse crickets some days or are you only offering them on some days? If she's a juvenile dragon (i.e. not an adult) she should be getting a lot of live food - its the protein in the bugs that provides young dragons with the materials they need to grow. There are two methods to feeding live food to a young dragon - one involves feeding them as many bugs as they want to eat in 10 minutes per feeding (can be over 100 crickets a day), and the second involves letting them eat as much as they want up to a total of 50 crickets a day. If it's a matter of her not being interested in crickets, you'll want to try other sources of live food to see if you can peak her appetite (its common for dragons to refuse crickets after a while). If that doesnt' work, you'll want to get her checked out by the vet as she may be carrying parasites that are affecting her appetite.
What is reptidiet? I'm assuming it's a prepared pellet type food. Just so you know, those don't make a good staple diet, although they do fine when used in addition to live food and regular salads in order to add more variety to the diet.
She may ignore it, but it's good to offer a salad daily so that she has the opportunity to nibble at it during the day as she likes. It takes a while for a dragon to start eating their veggies - like little kids they prefer to wait for the "good stuff," haha. Best to get her started as soon as possible, since salads will make up the majority of her diet when she's an adult.
It wouldn't directly cause her not to grow, but it can make her dehydrated which can in turn affect her health. Young dragons, in my opinion and I've heard recommended by reputable keepers, should be bathed every couple of days, while once a week or so is good for an adult. Fill a container/sink/tub with warm (not hot, baby bath water) water up to your dragon's armpits and put something on the bottom so she has grip (they hate it when they slide around). Then let her soak in the water - anywhere from 5-20 minutes is good, each dragon is different for how long they'll stay in. Letting her hold onto your fingers with her front feet may help her feel more comfortable. She may not like the baths at first, but she'll gradually become used to them. Some dragons love their baths and swim all over the tub. The purpose of the bath is hydration (she may drink straight from the tub, and even if she doesn't she will absorb some moisture in through her vent area) as well as to ease the discomfort of shedding.
A couple of questions you didn't answer (or I forgot to ask):
Are you using calcium or vitamin supplements?
How old is your dragon?
How long is she?
Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions you have.
What substrate are you using?
What do you use to heat the tank? two arizona heat lights and a UBB (Reptisun)
Your basking spot is only 85-90? Generally its recommended that a young dragon's basking spot be in the 100-110*F range. You can use a halogen flood light or a regular light bulb for heat - no need to pay extra for a pet store heat bulb. All you need is something that puts off clear light and enough heat to get your temps up.
It's coming time to replace the bulb. Unless you have a UVB meter to measure the output of the bulb, it's recommended that you replace a flourescent tube UVB bulb every 6 months to ensure that your dragon is getting the UVB that she needs to thrive.
You want to aim for 6-8 inches from the bulb in order for her to get optimal rays. Does the UVB light overlap her basking spot? It's ideal if she can soak up UVB while she's basking.
Does she refuse crickets some days or are you only offering them on some days? If she's a juvenile dragon (i.e. not an adult) she should be getting a lot of live food - its the protein in the bugs that provides young dragons with the materials they need to grow. There are two methods to feeding live food to a young dragon - one involves feeding them as many bugs as they want to eat in 10 minutes per feeding (can be over 100 crickets a day), and the second involves letting them eat as much as they want up to a total of 50 crickets a day. If it's a matter of her not being interested in crickets, you'll want to try other sources of live food to see if you can peak her appetite (its common for dragons to refuse crickets after a while). If that doesnt' work, you'll want to get her checked out by the vet as she may be carrying parasites that are affecting her appetite.
What is reptidiet? I'm assuming it's a prepared pellet type food. Just so you know, those don't make a good staple diet, although they do fine when used in addition to live food and regular salads in order to add more variety to the diet.
She may ignore it, but it's good to offer a salad daily so that she has the opportunity to nibble at it during the day as she likes. It takes a while for a dragon to start eating their veggies - like little kids they prefer to wait for the "good stuff," haha. Best to get her started as soon as possible, since salads will make up the majority of her diet when she's an adult.
It wouldn't directly cause her not to grow, but it can make her dehydrated which can in turn affect her health. Young dragons, in my opinion and I've heard recommended by reputable keepers, should be bathed every couple of days, while once a week or so is good for an adult. Fill a container/sink/tub with warm (not hot, baby bath water) water up to your dragon's armpits and put something on the bottom so she has grip (they hate it when they slide around). Then let her soak in the water - anywhere from 5-20 minutes is good, each dragon is different for how long they'll stay in. Letting her hold onto your fingers with her front feet may help her feel more comfortable. She may not like the baths at first, but she'll gradually become used to them. Some dragons love their baths and swim all over the tub. The purpose of the bath is hydration (she may drink straight from the tub, and even if she doesn't she will absorb some moisture in through her vent area) as well as to ease the discomfort of shedding.
A couple of questions you didn't answer (or I forgot to ask):
Are you using calcium or vitamin supplements?
How old is your dragon?
How long is she?
Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions you have.
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