Look, all I am saying, from a strictly scientific and medical standpoint is that
hydrated lime has a pH of 12.4, which is absolutely basic enough to cause severe chemical burns which you probably won't see on a scaled lizard like you would on a person. 12.4 is basic enough to really cause pain, and you have no idea what it is doing to your bearded dragon. You cannot possibly be sure that "dusting" your beardie in dry lime (I guess that's what you're doing, as no moisture can be involved if you want to keep the pH of dry lime, which is between 8.0-9.0) is not causing burns, as you cannot be sure that none of that dry lime isn't still on him, under his s ales, etc. when you wet him again. And regardless of the chemical burns, external treatment of yellow fungus alone will typically not eradicate the Infection, only lessen or "seemingly" eradicate the external signs and symptoms. And this is the same issue people have when simply soaking their infected Beardies in Betadine and then applying a topical antifungal medication to yellow fungus, it treats the external Infection but not the internal, and eventually it comes roaring back. And then it turns into the typical battle that lasts for months to years.
<<< I agree - the moment the stuff is applied to the skin, it will start taking up moisture from the air , and it will start reacting, the finer the powder , the higher the specific surface area ==> the more hydrophilic and reactive it becomes !... B.Sc Chemistry (Hons) & B.Sc Physics and B.E Chem Engg , sure I'm not a vet , I expect I know much more about chemistry than any vet.
So unless they can assure this dusting is done under extra dry air ( relative humidity much less than 10% ) I don't see how you can avoid alkali burns to beardie's skin, powder your own skin with it and let it sit there for a while and you'll soon have problems that washing with water wont help. I've handled (using safety gear at all times) lime / powdered foam and granulated form - very good deccicant) in a fume hood which had extremely dry air fed into it and the stuff still reacted ... so I can tell you this is very hard to do.
They might believe in alternative medicine. If it's not mainstream , it's not for good reasons.
I'd be very reluctant to allow "a vet" to use any of my pets as a guinea pick for a speculative treatment especially where they can not guarantee the owner can do things under STRICT laboratory controls in their home.
But the long and the short of this is it's their pet, not mine. All I can do is offer my educated and considered opinion , if they choose to ignore it and that offered by other knowledgeable people, then injuries caused are on them and their quack.
Who does the suffering - the pet bearded dragon
Please - do not inflict this on your beardie
Let's be real for a second, if we could. No science, no medicine, no education, but just some common sense for a minute, okay? Because honestly this is actually the more important issue with this post, to me anyway:
So someone thinks their beardie, who they love dearly, has Yellow Fungus. They compare their beardie to photos online, and they cannot afford or are unwilling to take their pet to a proper Herp Vet, or any vet for that matter. So they come on here and search for "Yellow Fungus" and they read the hundreds of posts recommending Betadine soaks, applying antifungal creams, etc. So they do all of the normal treatments and they help for a while, maybe their Beardies even appear cured of the fungus, but because they have gotten their pet no oral or injectable medications in combination to the external treatments, the yellow fungus just keeps coming back. Then one day while they are desperately searching for an answer because their beardie is dying and they're panicking, they see your post title that says "Lime As a Treatment For Yellow Fungus"...What do you think they're going to do? Do you think they're going to do a ton more research on the topic? Read this entire thread and realize that not only is this treatment unproven and at the least needs to be combined with an oral or injectable medication as well to be effective, but do you think they will really understand that you're not soaking your beardie in a solution of lime? Or making a cream or paste of lime to rub onto their Beardies? There's no instructions provided here as to what exactly you're procedures are, no warnings provided about what might happen if they apply wet lime to their Beardies, etc. I guarantee you that they'll see the phrase "Lime as a treatment for yellow fungus" and "recommended by my Reptile vet" and off some teenager goes to their garage to grab some of the lime their parents put on their lawns, and sure as I'm writing this they'll mix it in water and either soak their beardie's entire body in it or they'll make a paste of it and lather it on all of their beardie's external lesions.
This is where I'm coming from. I don't think that I was at all wrong in what I said sir. I was not rude, I didn't swear or use strong language, I said "Please don't apply lime to your beardie" and "It's torturous to do so". And I counted at least 2 other members that said exactly the same thing that did originally, and well regarded and knowledgeable members at that. And it's true, if you were to apply wet lime to any living creature and either leave it on them or soak them in it, that would be nothing less than "Torturous". Period.
I don't at all think you're an animal abuser or whatever it was that you said, I never said anything like that. I know very well that you're trying to cure your beardie of a nasty fungi that is incredibly difficult to eradicate. But posting this thread with that title and actually arguing that it could not be potentially harmful or torturous to bearded dragons and saying it is "recommended by your Reptile vet" is not telling the entire story that needs to be told to the many desperate beardie owners that have a lizard with yellow fungus, and the that come on here, panicking, trying everything they can to cure their beloved Beardies that have yellow fungus. You need to tell both sides to this story in order to be responsible, because I guarantee that someone has most likely already read this post and lathered their sick beardie up in wet lime and has caused horrible chemical burns to their pet. 12.4 is very basic and certainly high enough to cause a lot of pain.
As someone else stated, I find it very difficult to believe that any reputable vet that cares about their medical license would actually recommend using this as a legitimate treatment for yellow fungus. There are no scientific studies, no data on the long-term effects or the efficacy for that matter, and the minute a vet told their paying patients to do this and the patients got confused and used wet lime on their lizard and caused horrible chemical burns or worse, that vet would certainly be sued and at the very least be investigated by the licensing board. I think that's where everyone who has questioned your vet is coming from.
Try to understand both sides of this and the great responsibility you take on by endorsing a treatment that is absolutely "torturous" if the person attempting it makes what I'd say is frankly a very easy and understandable mistake to make. Adding moisture to lime powder. It's that simple a mistake that has disasterous outcomes.
As I said in my email to you, applying hydrochloric acid to external Yellow Fungus lesions would probably eradicate the external Infection as well. Does that mean we should do it?