Heisenberg the dragon

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Hi everyone, my name is Robinlynne I am a new mom to a bd named Heisenberg (we are big fans of breaking bad, RIP Walter White) my husband has always wanted a reptile but, I didn't so I would ignore him whenever he would bring it up.I finally gave in and agreed to get one.we did some research and decided to get A bearded dragon. I did a lot of online research and thought I knew how to take care of him. So on sept. 26th we brought Heisenberg home.

after getting him I found out we were doing some things wrong (mainly the lighting) we will rectify these problems immediately. I'd like to describe his set up n care so if I am doing anything else wrong someone can let me know. even though I didn't want him now he has a big spot in my heart and, I want to give him the best care that I can. also as a proud new mom I want to brag about my baby boy. I have pictures but don't know how to post them yet.

He is housed in a 36x18x18 terrarium. For substrate I'm using reptile carpet. he has a cave to hide in, a large branch under a basking bulb and, two vines to climb on. the cool side is about 89, the warm side about 97 and the basking area is around 115. The humidity is between 20 - 27%

The lighting is the area I made some mistakes with but, I am going to rectify the problems later this week. the lights are all on timers in attempt to replicate dawn, morning, noon, dusk and, night. I have two 125 watt MVB mounted about 9-10" above the tank. On each side of the tank I have a 75 watt basking bulb and red nocturnal bulb. Both set is about 4" above the tank. Above the front of the tank is a hood that holds four compact fluorescent 13 watt bulbs. I am going to exchange the hood for two 24" repti sun 10.0 tubes. I will also replace the red nocturnal bulbs with ceramic heating bulbs. I will replace all bulbs in 6 months.

From this site I have learned that the UVB bulbs should be mounted inside the tank, not above the screen. Personally I don't want to do this , mainly for aesthetics. However I think that with the two MVB and two UVB tubes that more than enough UVB and UVA is penetrating through the screen.

We got him from petsmart on Sept. 26th. He is now 13" long and is 130g (4.5oz) so we guess he is around 4 months old.

He gets a 15-20 min. Soak in the sink every day. Some times he will swim around but usually he just sits there or tries to get out. He is basically potty trained and will poop in the sink. However, if bath time is late he will go in his cage.

Heisenberg loves to cuddle with me every night. I wrap him in his blankie and snuggle him im my arm for 2-3 hours while I watch tv. He will bury his nose in his blankie and falls into a deep sleep. he sleeps so soundly that I can get up with him in my arms to get a drink or snack and he doesn't wake up. I put him back in his cage still swaddled in his blankie and he will sleep like that all night.

I didn't want him but now we have bonded and he has become part of our family. We don't have kids so, our pets are our children. He has 6 siblings; a dog, 2 cats and, 3 goldfish. All are very pampered and spoiled. When Heisenberg runs away from my husband and comes to me I tease my husband and say "Not the mama!". It's a line a baby dinosaur would say in a cartoon from the eighties.

As far as feeding goes he gets about 10-15 crickets a day that I dust with a calcium d3 powder. He mostly eats worms, about 7 a day that I spray with a multi vitamin. I breed my own silkworms, he also eats hornworms amd butterworms. I do not give him mealworms because they have an exoskeleton. I was giving him a freeze dried mix of mealworms crickets and grasshoppers about once a week that he would devour in no time at all. But the last time I gave it to him he didn't poop for 4 days, he usually poops once a day. I started to give him canned pumpkin and he finally had a bowel movement. I don't give him that mix anymore.

I now give him canned pumpkin every morning. He LOVES it, when he sees the container I keep it in he runs over to get it. I feed it to him on a spoon because if I put it in a bowl he makes a huge mess. He trusts me so much that he lets me wipe his face with a napkin. He also gets a salad every day that he picks at and, fruit occasionally. He loves banana but I know to only give it to him now and then. I also give him a moist food that is made by nature zone called baby bites.

Sorry this is so long and, I hope I haven't put too many people to sleep. I'm excited to meet many of you and I have enjoyed reading posts other people have posted. I look forward to read replies to my post.I'm happy to have found a place to talk about my new favorite subject; my sweet baby boy Heisenberg
 

zandi202

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Wow, that's a lot of information you had to take in. Poor Mr. Man. I bet some Mommy cuddles will help. I do hope his appetite pick up and that he stops walking on his wrist. I'm glad you also found a vet that you like. That helps. Give Mr. Man some extra cuddles for me and tell him I said he has to get better real soon. :)
 

pogismom

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Alot of that sounded optimistic. It sounds like you will get into a routine once you get used to the prep work for his food. I know you are worried...I would be too...but remember regardless of the results, you have a wonderful beardie who is bonded with you. So enjoy that little guy!
 

BrendaKay

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Gatorade? Do you mean Pedialyte? I soaked Zilla in 50/50 Pedialyte/Water and gave him drinks of 50/50 Grape Pedialyte/Water.

I hope he gets better real soon!! You must be a wreck - I know I would be.
 

Heisenberg

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Thanks Monique the food mixture is a pain in the arse to make but I love my little Heine (my nickname for him) so I don't mind. The vet wants him to have a wide variety of fruit greens and pellets in this mixtur. I just got back from the supermarket, I got mortar and pestle to grind the pellets into a powder. I also got some fruits he dosnt really like any fruit other than banana but I'll give it a try. I also bought some more greens, he onlyhad about 7 different kinds so he needed more LOL. This weekend I will get to petsmart to pick up some different types of pellets, he only has one and he dosnt really like it. Im going to use a pumpkin base today rather than the banana it would be better for him if he will eat it if not i'll make it all over again with the banana This mixture cant be made ahead of time and refrigerated I have to make it fresh each time......FML!! Well I can crush the pellets ahead of time so maybe I will crush a few days worth tonight when I'm watching TV

Yes Brenda I am beside myself with worry. He is such a big part of my life, I don't know what I would do without him. I didn't get any sleep last night and he didn't get a lot either he kept moving around inside his snuggie, probably all the sugar in the darn Gatorade. I thought him telling me to use Gatorade instead of pedilyte was strange too and asked him a few times aboutit.maybe the sugar is the reason he wants me to use it??? I will ask him again tomtomorrow when I speak to him. He told me to get different flavors to see what ones he likes. So I bought 8 different ones....LOL I believe more is more better! I have to get his slop made so I will keep all of you posted tomorrow after I speak to him. And thank you all for your well wishes and support
 

BrendaKay

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I don't know what it does to the nutritional value, but I had been making slurries in the blender and freezing it in ice cube trays. When it froze, I'd pop them into a zip lock and keep it in the freezer. I would thaw a cube at a time and then add the calcium, vitamin, supliments, whatever to it after it thawed. I even did that with the pedialyte to keep it fresh since you have to use it with 48 hours. I'd freeze it and then dilute it down after a cube or two thawed. I've also had to do that with left over canned pumpkin.

Hope he starts perking up soon!!
 

Heisenberg

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That sounds like a good idea I will ask the vet about it but I do know that as soon as you cut up greens they start to loose their nutritional value, don't know if that would stop if I froze it. And I've always heard that fresh veggies are better than frozen in people so not sure if would be ok to do or not but I will ask him. I hope he will say yes because making it is a pain and anything that would make it a little easier would be great. So I made the slop as I like to call it with the pumpkin instead of banana. He took one lick of it off my finger and literally ran away from it!! So in a little while I will make banana slop, just eant to sit for a few minutes. Not sleeping for the last two nights is catching up to me
 

sweetiepie9

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I'm glad he saw the vet, if you want another opinion of anything, contact Tracie at drache613 and she'll give you her opinion, too.

Sounds like your vet knows what he's doing, I'd just be careful with the fruit. And see if you can use Pedialyte instead of Gatorade, as you can get a clear pedialyte without the dye that Gatorade does. They've both got sugar, but I think that Gatorade has more. So check the vet when you talk to him.

I'm pretty sure Heisenberg has parasites, they can cause terrible effects on dragons. So make sure you get Acidophilus for him, as he needs the good bacteria if he has parasites. If he needs to have meds, give them 1st thing in the morning & then about 6 hours later you give the Acidophilus as the meds will kill the good bacteria if given right away.

So will be waiting to hear about the results tomorrow.

Big hugs to Heisenberg and you.
 

pogismom

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Lack of appetite was the first sign that Pogi had them. Still fighting it too! But I am seeing a positive turn around that I hope will be confirmed at his next fecal test.

Even without the parasites you might just give him the acidophilus to help w his digestion. I don't believe you can OD on that stuff.

I feel your frustration too... I have been having to give Pogi meds every day orally for 4 wks plus sterilize his tank daily to be sure he isn't re infecting himself. it is exhausting to care and worry about your pets or children when they are ill. Don't underestimate sleep deprivation!!! Try and nap when you can.
 

BrendaKay

Juvie Member
I know everybody recommends acidophilus, but can anyone post a pic of the bottle? I'm curious if it's a powder or liquid, and if it's a liquid is it in a small bottle with a medicine dropper squeeze tip top. I bought a bottle that I'm not sure if is the right stuff or not. So was just curious.
 

pogismom

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Mine is in gel form n comes in a small tube. It's calked Bene Bac. My vet gave it to me. Also beardedragon.co sells a form of it among other beneficial supplies n first aid treatments. Dr foster n Smith n Petco carry the larger syringe type gel dispenser. It comes in powder form as well as liquid.
 

sweetiepie9

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I used Benebac with Gabriel while he was battling parasites, too, it was great. But the one I get now is from Tracie's site http://www.bug-de-lite.com. Cheryl at beardeddragon.co has it, too, but Tracie sells it much cheaper & it's the same thing. Here's a pic:



And it has this type of dropper that comes with it. I measure it out in an oral syringe as I give it to mine often. Rubio and Didi are getting it daily because they're both on antibiotics.


You can't overdo probiotics, they can be given to your dragon any time. If they're on meds I was told by Cheryl to give the meds in the am & give the probiotics about 6 or more hours later, as the meds will kill the good bacteria in the probiotics if you give them too soon.

Tracie sells the bottle for $6, Cheryl for $7.95. Tracie also sells benebac, liquid calcium, and types of antibiotics as well.

Hope that helps. You can get powder probiotics, too, but I like the liquids. Just keep them in the fridge.
 

pogismom

Hatchling Member
Great info! What dosage do u use w liquid n do u open their mouths or will they take it willingly? That is why I prefer the gel for Pogi will like it from my finger. I will also put a dab on his nose so he can lick it off.
 
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