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dananae07

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Why does my beardie stare at something intently? Almost to the point he looks like he is paralyzed but he isn't. Just stares and doesnt move for a minute. Is it just scared and trying to figure out what something is?
 

JessPets

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Hello, does he seem to 'stargaze'? I hope not. 'Stargazing' is something called adenovirus, and doesn't usually have great results. Can you please elaborate?
 

dananae07

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No he doesn't stargaze, usually it's just like he's intently looking at something (thinking just his reflection or something) usually happens when I'm feeding him or something
 

SHBailey

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That sounds like normal behavior to me too. They're very good at giving you "The Look". Sometimes it means they want something from you and sometimes they seem to be just observing everything :?
 
Since I have my desk beside her tank, my baby is always staring at me. To the point that she barely moves.
I realised that when im not around she'd be her usual self, eat crickets and what not. Even as id feed her crickets in a container away from the tank, if im there she'd constantly stare at me and heed no attention to the crickets whatsoever.
Its weird - I hope this is normal. (She eats when im not there)
 

SHBailey

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How long have you had her? If not very long, she may still be getting used to her new home and her new human. She may still be trying to figure you out, and once she realizes that you're harmless and that you're the one who brings the food, she probably won't have a problem with eating while you're around.

Otherwise, some beardies just have weird little personality quirks, and it doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong. :?
 
Reptilelady":16mwzfoe said:
LOL my beardie does the same thing :lol: When you approach him, does he snap out of it?

Yes she does, sometimes I think she wouldnt be looking at my hands, and when im going to grab her in the tank she gets startled. But whenever I take her out of the tank she's always eager to explore and run (mostly away from me) haha so I do think she's still getting used to me.

I've had her for about 2 months now - almost 3 actually. She'll be 5 months old next week!
But yeah - I suppose it could also be she's got a weird personality :)
 

Reptilelady

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MorganaTheSatyr":11vd9kod said:
Reptilelady":11vd9kod said:
LOL my beardie does the same thing :lol: When you approach him, does he snap out of it?

Yes she does, sometimes I think she wouldnt be looking at my hands, and when im going to grab her in the tank she gets startled. But whenever I take her out of the tank she's always eager to explore and run (mostly away from me) haha so I do think she's still getting used to me.

I've had her for about 2 months now - almost 3 actually. She'll be 5 months old next week!
But yeah - I suppose it could also be she's got a weird personality :)

Awwe how cute, appreciate those few months because she will get big very quickly lol Yeah I'm sure that's just her personality. As long as she's not staring and then you try to get her attention and shes still staring. Mine did that too when he was younger but whenever I approached him he would wave at me :lol: Its really cute to see. Has your girl done that yet?
 

EllenD

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This is totally normal and it's not an issue...I wanted to correct a comment that someone made during the time last year that this post was originally written, only because I think it could cause some confusion and probably needlessly scare and worry people. Someone above wrote the sentence:

"Stargazing is something called Adenovirus....", and obviously that sentence isn't written correctly or doesn't come across the way it was meant. I think what the person who wrote this meant that "Adenovirus is a potentially fatal disease that Bearded Dragons can either be born with or contract, as it's extremely contagious, and there is no cure for it as of now, and Stargazing can be one of the many symptoms shown in a Bearded Dragon who is positive for Adenovirus".

"Stargazing" is a symptom of many healthy problems and conditions/diseases, not just Adenovirus, and in addition, not all Dragons who are positive for Adenovirus end up "Stargazing"...When Adenovirus was first identified it was nicknamed "Stargazing Disease", and I may be wrong on this one but I believe it was also what people used to refer to as "Bearded Dragon Wasting Disease". These were simply nicknames for Adenovirus based on 2 of the outwardly displayed symptoms that most dragons with Adenovirus would suffer from, both losing large amounts of weight and constantly Stargazing.

The thing to keep in mind here is that "Stargazing" is not in any way the same as "Staring", and if your Dragon starts to actually "Stargaze" you'll know it because it's pretty odd looking.

To the best of my knowledge and what I've read, "Stargazing" is first of all a very constant behavior that lasts for very long periods of time each time they do it, sometimes for hours at a clip, and it happens very frequently, multiple times a day. Also, when a Dragon is "Stargazing", they are looking straight up in the air, with their head bent backwards. That's "Stargazing". It's not something that is common in Dragons, and it cannot be mistaken for your Dragon simply "Staring" at something, whether it be at you, a light, an insect of piece of food, staring out a window, etc. When they "Stare" they are looking right at something, usually straight at it, and though they can just sit and stare right at you or something else that they're interested in or curious about for long periods of time, this is not at all "Stargazing". If you ever see your Dragon flip it's head backwards, bending it backwards, and staring at something straight up in the air, and it lasts for a long period of time, that's "Stargazing" and you'll know it because it looks very bizarre. I've actually only seen a Dragon "Stargaze" a hand-full of times at the Exotics Rescue I've worked at for years and years, and in one of those cases the Dragon did not have Adenovirus at all, but rather had a horrible UVB light that the former owner had been using for years (the same UVB bulb, he never changed it from the time the Dragon was a baby), and the Dragon would climb up the back wall of his tank constantly trying to get UVB light from the 4 year old UVB bulb. So he had been staring right into this worthless lightbulb for years and had his face extremely close to the light the whole time he was staring at it, and this over time had caused this poor Dragon serious neurological issues on top of the MBD and severe Calcium and Vitamin Deficiencies he was suffering from. He would just sit in the bottom of his tank (this was after we set him up with proper lighting, temps, etc.) with his head pointed straight up in the air and bent backwards for hours every single day. He was eventually euthanized by our Certified Reptile Vet because he had absolutely no quality of life at all, he couldn't move, couldn't even walk, wouldn't eat on his own at all, and just Stargazed all day long, every day. It was both bizarre and very sad. But he didn't have Adenovirus, he probably would have been better off had he had Adenovirus.

I just wanted to try to clear up what "Stargazing" actually means, because I know that a lot of worried Beardie owners confuse their Dragons simply staring at something with the possibility that they're "Stargazing", and then they obviously are worried to death that they have Adenovirus or that something is seriously wrong. It's not. They stare a lot, and it's perfectly normal.
 

JessPets

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Sorry, that is what I meant. I know that the most common symptom of it is 'stargazing', so I wanted to make sure that it wasn't that. Thanks for clearing that up EllenD!
 

EllenD

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JessPets":3hs4eli7 said:
Sorry, that is what I meant. I know that the most common symptom of it is 'stargazing', so I wanted to make sure that it wasn't that. Thanks for clearing that up EllenD!


I figured, I just wanted to clarify, sorry if that came off as me being rude or anything of the sort, that wasn't how I intended it at all. I've seen a lot of posts where very worried Dragon owners think that their Dragon has Adenovirus or some other serious health problem because they think that they are "Stargazing", and they aren't "Stargazing" at all, they are simply staring at something. So I hope that people who are searching for information of "Stargazing" will come across this post and it will ease their minds. It's a horrible feeling to worry like that about your Beardie being seriously ill...
 

JessPets

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EllenD":1pswhcq8 said:
JessPets":1pswhcq8 said:
Sorry, that is what I meant. I know that the most common symptom of it is 'stargazing', so I wanted to make sure that it wasn't that. Thanks for clearing that up EllenD!


I figured, I just wanted to clarify, sorry if that came off as me being rude or anything of the sort, that wasn't how I intended it at all. I've seen a lot of posts where very worried Dragon owners think that their Dragon has Adenovirus or some other serious health problem because they think that they are "Stargazing", and they aren't "Stargazing" at all, they are simply staring at something. So I hope that people who are searching for information of "Stargazing" will come across this post and it will ease their minds. It's a horrible feeling to worry like that about your Beardie being seriously ill...

No, your post was very well written, and hopefully clear up any confusion!
 
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