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chancellor91

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so its coiled?


chancellor91":011d9 said:
well is it a coild, tube, or just look like a big old fashion light bulb?

this sounds like a compact coil, these are very horrible to your beardies well being? can you please tell us brand and everything else? like temps, hot and cold, feeder size and what kind, substrate, thanks should help us a lot

keep us updated

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munchkins9802

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Please get rid of the UVB bulb immediately--he will be better a few days without one. Get the repti sun 10,0 from petmountain.com ($20) and get the light fixture for it at lowes or home depot.
when did you say the last vet visit was and was it a vet who is experienced with bearded dragons. Get the baby food. temps seem OKAY.
I forget if you give it calcium and vitamins and if so how ofteN?
I would take him back to the vet if he still is like this when you get home
 

shygurl0189

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they need a UVB light dont they? i use Exo-Terra Repti Glo 10.0 Compact Desert Terrarium Lamp for the uvb and a ZooMed Ceramic Infrared Heat Emitter.

TEMP basking :100-105
Temp cool side: is 80-85
flooring: carpet
food: crickets mealies and greens
the crickets i use are 3/4 inch. or large.
vitemans calcium: everyday to every other
 

sara24354

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Shy,
That particular bulb is no good,it can cause lathargy,eye problems,etc.... Please get a reptiSUN 10 bulb. Tracie (drache can give you the actual test results. He would be better off without UVB for a day or 2 compared to using that bulb. Try the babyfood applesauce and chicken as suggested.Any further questions,please ask,We all want to help.
 

vickson420

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Absolutely that is probably one of the major causes of wats going on here.Please understand coil and compact UVB are dangerous or useless.The other thing I noticed is that you said you have a CE for heat which is fine for night time but not for during the day.You need a bright white bulb for heat any ordinary housebulb or flood will do so long as you can get the temps to the desired levels and turn of that coil ASAP.You need to get him a linear UVB specifically the reptiSUN 10.0,reptiSUN 5.0 or the Arcadia if you are across the pond.He isnt synthesizing his calcium properly which is causing the lack of appetite not to mention quite possibly doing damage to his eyes.You dont even need to take our word for it.I want to give you this link to an independant study so you can see exactly whats going on:
http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapyphosphor.htm
Glad your getting the therm please make sure to leave the probe on the basking surface for at least 45 minutes and let us know where the temps are.Also I wouldnt totally rule out impaction yet even if the vet didnt palpate anything because it still is possible that he has a partial impaction due to the poor lighting and possibly incorrect heating.Did you pick up the babyfood?I have a string feeling once you make the needed corrections he will bounce right back for you.Keep us posted.
 

Embee

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sara24354":b7d8e said:
Shy,
That particular bulb is no good,it can cause lathargy,eye problems,etc.... Please get a reptiSUN 10 bulb. Tracie (drache can give you the actual test results. He would be better off without UVB for a day or 2 compared to using that bulb. Try the babyfood applesauce and chicken as suggested.Any further questions,please ask,We all want to help.

I totally agree, and with all who say, TURN OFF THE COMPACT/COIL ASAP. They are well known for causing all sorts of issues from lack of appetite, lethargy, eye issues, and at worst, radiation poisoning which goes from bad to worse quickly. Here is a link to a thread/WITH link to the report, that explains it better than I can:

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In the meantime, you'll want to get a quality UVB light, excellent product at good price here: http://www.petmountain.com/product/reptile-fluorescent-bulbs/504983/zoo-med-reptisun-10.0-uvb-bulb.html You will need a standard fluorescent strip type fixture... a local hardware store usually carries these less expensively than at pet stores. Your beardie is better off with no UVB for now. He needs some time to heal from that coil lamp.

Also (VERY IMPORTANT), you will want to replace the heat emitter for a BRIGHT WHITE basking bulb. A heat emitter is for supplemental heat only. It does not offer your beardie the UVA that he needs. Beardies need their heat to be in the form of bright white light for overall well being, mental health and also (very important) to shield their eyes from the UVB, which even with a quality product, can be harsh on the eyes. A basking bulb can be one from the pet store, or simply a household incandescent, spot or flood, which offer bright white light, and also appropriate temps, basking 105-110, ambient 85-90, cool side, about 80 (your may need to experiment with wattage to achieve correct temps). You will want a digital thermometer WITH probe to gauge temps accurately.

When you have your new tube strip UVB, you will want to align with your basking bulb as follows:

_____________ ReptiSun UVB tube light
0 basking bulb

...so that beardie has benefit of both bulbs while basking.

I've been down the compact road, and it can get ugly fast. I realize it's sometimes hard to take all this information in, and in particular why in the heck there would be UVB lights on the market that will actually harm your dragon *sigh* but it's important that you act fast before the light can do any further damage. In the meantime, keep offering food in small amounts (jarred chicken baby food if it hasn't already been suggested), and also keep your dragon hydrated and warm. The ceramic heat emitter can be a very big help for nighttime heat, and right now, I would suggest keeping beardie warm, even at night, until you see some improvement.

We're hoping for the best for your dragon. Please keep us posted as to how he's doing.

Hang in there,
Em
 

Embee

Gray-bearded Member
Ooops, Vicky already gave her expert advice. That's what I get for writing a post, and then getting distracted... don't forget to hit "send" Embee. :oops: :wink:
 

vickson420

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Embee":9505e said:
Ooops, Vicky already gave her expert advice. That's what I get for writing a post, and then getting distracted... don't forget to hit "send" Embee. :oops: :wink:
:laughhard: Thats ok coming from miltiple sources helps enforce the fact that we are not just making it up.Sometimes when your new its hard to figure out what advice is fact and what is not so good job on the back up post :D
 
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