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bdalton
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So sorry about Godzilla. 
For future reference, if you plan on getting another beardie, you don't want to house them together. I also noticed that you have an under tank heater and a 150 watt basking bulb, and I find it really hard to believe the temp in the size tank you have could be 101. I used a zoomed or zilla (can't remember which, but looked like yours) digital thermometer before and noticed no matter how much heat i put in the tank, it wouldn't go above 97, and then I got an accurate brand thermometer and put it in the same spot as the other, with the same bulb and it read 116, so you may want to double check your temps. In my 40 breeder tank I only use one 65 watt bulb, and in my 75 gallon a 100 watt to get my basking temps to 105. I tried the exact bulb you have, the intense 150 and it was really hot, i think 120 something, even in a 75g tank. I just want to make sure your other dragon (who is adorable) doesn't get dehydrated. You can get the accurite thermometer from walmart for like 10$. Ever since my incident I just don't trust those thermometers. Plus, with the accurite thermometer, you can put the probe on the basking spot and the actual thermometer itself on the cool side, and it will give you both temps, so you only need one thermometer, and it also gives a humidity level.
Just a heads up, and again, I'm so sorry about Gozilla. RIP!
For future reference, if you plan on getting another beardie, you don't want to house them together. I also noticed that you have an under tank heater and a 150 watt basking bulb, and I find it really hard to believe the temp in the size tank you have could be 101. I used a zoomed or zilla (can't remember which, but looked like yours) digital thermometer before and noticed no matter how much heat i put in the tank, it wouldn't go above 97, and then I got an accurate brand thermometer and put it in the same spot as the other, with the same bulb and it read 116, so you may want to double check your temps. In my 40 breeder tank I only use one 65 watt bulb, and in my 75 gallon a 100 watt to get my basking temps to 105. I tried the exact bulb you have, the intense 150 and it was really hot, i think 120 something, even in a 75g tank. I just want to make sure your other dragon (who is adorable) doesn't get dehydrated. You can get the accurite thermometer from walmart for like 10$. Ever since my incident I just don't trust those thermometers. Plus, with the accurite thermometer, you can put the probe on the basking spot and the actual thermometer itself on the cool side, and it will give you both temps, so you only need one thermometer, and it also gives a humidity level.
Just a heads up, and again, I'm so sorry about Gozilla. RIP!
and yes starfire is very pretty i just want to get her a friend as soon as i can before godzillia died i remember i took her and godzillia both out and starfire was giving godzillia a piggy back ride THAT WAS SO CUTE.. i really miss that little guy, its good to know that hey died fighting and i tryed evrything i could to try save him.
R.I.P GODZILLIA
R.I.P GODZILLIA
kcarello
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viewtopic.php?f=6&t=154908&start=0 Watch this, it will explain why you should not house them together.
bdalton
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You can get the thermometer right at walmart or on amazon.com, and even in pet stores but it will cost more there. It doesn't have to be a specific one, just a digital probe thermometer. I like the ones that give you an in and out reading so you can get your basking temp and cool side with one thermometer.
The reason you don't house together is because they are solitary animals and don't do well with others. As babies they can be okay, but theres still a risk. They see toes as food which is how missing limps happen. They are territorial so they will fight when together. They can be fine for years and one day just snap. When you see them laying on top of each other, its not them being cute, its being dominant. Once determined which one is the dominant one, he will get the best lighting (the laying on top of one another), all the food etc and eventually the other one will just wilt away. Starfire is not going to be lonely, if anything she's happier because she has her territory back to herself. Two males together will fight to death, a male and female doesn't work because the male will constantly try to breed the female, and males are mature sooner than females so they will breed too young and hurt the female, the constant trying to breed will stress her out causing other health issues. Sometimes, but very very rarely, two females will be okay together, but can still snap at any time. It happens all the time and the only real chance of two females tolerating each other is if they are clutch mates and been together since birth. If you try to put a new female in with star fire, she will probably fight for her territory. It only takes a split second for disaster to happen. It just not worth the risk.
Most people will tell you...if you can't afford two enclosures, don't get two beardies. (i know you never said you couldn't afford it or anything so I'm not saying that to you lol)
heres an article on why you don't house together.....viewtopic.php?f=6&t=154908
Im really sorry about Godzilla, but now you can focus on Starfire and give her everything she deserves!
The reason you don't house together is because they are solitary animals and don't do well with others. As babies they can be okay, but theres still a risk. They see toes as food which is how missing limps happen. They are territorial so they will fight when together. They can be fine for years and one day just snap. When you see them laying on top of each other, its not them being cute, its being dominant. Once determined which one is the dominant one, he will get the best lighting (the laying on top of one another), all the food etc and eventually the other one will just wilt away. Starfire is not going to be lonely, if anything she's happier because she has her territory back to herself. Two males together will fight to death, a male and female doesn't work because the male will constantly try to breed the female, and males are mature sooner than females so they will breed too young and hurt the female, the constant trying to breed will stress her out causing other health issues. Sometimes, but very very rarely, two females will be okay together, but can still snap at any time. It happens all the time and the only real chance of two females tolerating each other is if they are clutch mates and been together since birth. If you try to put a new female in with star fire, she will probably fight for her territory. It only takes a split second for disaster to happen. It just not worth the risk.
Most people will tell you...if you can't afford two enclosures, don't get two beardies. (i know you never said you couldn't afford it or anything so I'm not saying that to you lol)
heres an article on why you don't house together.....viewtopic.php?f=6&t=154908
Im really sorry about Godzilla, but now you can focus on Starfire and give her everything she deserves!
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