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Puppycut

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In my other post I told what's up with pixie. Is anyone available to give me advice on the face stuff happening from this bacterial infection?
 

EllenD

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We need some more information about the infection that she has, and what the vet actually told you. I understand that she has pinworms and you gave her a dose of Panacur, but did the vet tell you how high her pinworm count was? Pinworms are often not treated if the count is low, because they are typically present in their gastrointestinal tract but they don't cause any issues in low counts.

The bacterial infection that she was put on Baytril for, how did the vet diagnose that infection? Did he do a culture, or was it just a visible infection that he saw? Where is the infection, on her face? I'm not really clear on what signs and symptoms she had that made you take her to the vet in the first place, does she have a visible, external infection? Is she still eating and acting normally?

Some photos of her entire body as well as close ups of any visible infections, and then some photos of her enclosure and lighting is necessary for us to understand what's going on. Once you post them we'll be more than happy to help you as much as we can...
 

Puppycut

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Ok I am uploading pics so you can see.
My previous vet that I used to go too never did any culture for her. I do have the lab report I can upload also.
 

EllenD

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First of all, I completely agree about giving her probiotics once daily, as I'm a huge proponent of giving them to both my beardies and my parrots whenever they are put on any prescription meds, or whenever their appetites seem to be weak. The probiotics will settle their stomachs and replace the normal, healthy bacteria in their gastrointestinal tracts that the antibiotics kill off, pumping up their appetites.

As far as the test results, her pinworm count is high enough that I agree she needs the Panacur. I know that you've given her at least one dose already, but how many doses have you given her total so far, and how many doses dose she have left (and what is the frequency of the doses)? What is the amount you're giving her per dose? Antiparasitic meds like Panacur work very well and it should clear up the pinworms easily, but they are also extremely harsh on their stomachs and their appetites, so again I would be giving her probiotics on a daily basis.

As far as the "bacterial infection" on her face, from looking at the photos it actually just looks retained shed to me, or something similar, not an actual bacterial infection. I'm assuming the "swab" and the "culture" of the swab was taken from that area of her face, which came back positive for Pseudomonas Aeruginosa. However, Pseudomonas Aeruginosa is a very commonly occuring, normal bacteria that is present in very high counts on EVERYONE'S SKIN! In fact, it's the second most prevalent bacteria found on the external skin of humans, animals, reptiles, etc., the only other bacteria found in the same high quantities on external skin is Staphylococcus Aureus.

So what I'm getting at here is that if I were to take a swab of your normal, healthy skin, or mine, or anyone's, or your beardie's tail, leg, etc. or my beardie's skin, the culture is going to test positive for Pseudomonas Aeruginosa. So unless there is an actual open wound or sore, or just open skin in that area that has white cells present, I don't at all think that she has a bacterial infection on her face. Now it may be a fungal infection, as they tend to grow on top of the skin and appear as a little scabby area or as an area of built-up skin, and a swab and culture may not necessarily pick up a fungal infection, as you typically need to do a skin scraping test so that a piece of the cells that are on top of the skin is collected and tested.

Now if there is an open sore, seeping, etc. and I just can't see it in the photos then that's different. But if it's just appearing as something that looks like retained shed collecting on top of her scales, and if it's been progressively spreading for some length of time (I don't know how long she's had this stuff on her face), I think it's actually a fungal infection and not a bacterial infection...In which case the antibiotics are not helping at all, and can actually be making it worse.

When did it first appear? Has it gotten progressively worse since then, has it spread? Has she shed that area since it first appeared? Has it seeped any pus or blood? Does it look like a scabby area close up, or is it actually down in her skin?
 

Puppycut

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Miss Ellen. It was a build up
Of shed. It came off today. And the culture was a decal. She has a blow out on the table at the vet. The panacure has only been one dose so far. I still have three more to give. Once a week it says on the label that the dose isgive 0.1ml by mouth once every seven days. Also what are the probiotics and where do I order them from. I will order today!
 
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