How Come We Don't Get A lot of Pagona barbata in the U.S.?

[Elaina]

check these out:

 

[kirby]

elaina, im pretty sure he's just a central.

Fresnowhitte, P.Mitchelli are the size of P. henrylawsoni (<10") they are rather small, and rather impossible to create a 26" monster. P.VitticepsXP.Barbata IS the German Giant. the 'vittikins' is a hybrib between P. Vitticeps and the rankins (P.Henrylawsoni) they full out around 12" with features from both the pygmy and central. Marcia Rybak first created them by accident, they were popular for a while, as she sold a few hundred, although im not sure if these days they are that common.

Maxattack, unfortunately the clown agamas arent australian. im not entirely sure were they are from?..

 

[kirby]

and to answer the original Question.

P.Barbata is rare outside of australia because of out import/export laws, being NO reptiles in or out. except Zoo's. and when you were allowed to export them, the barbatas were bred up to create GG's. there ARE still some out there...

 

[fresnowitte]

Thanks Kirby I knew I could count on you to clear that up for me. :wink:

 

[Elaina]

Thanks Kirby- I figured my pics are of a central..but if it weren't for his head, I swear he looks unlike any beardie I have seen personally. That was Elvis, my former foster dragon. He is now at his happy home, and put on much needed weight. Tho he lightened up as we got him healthier, he is still quite dark, which made me wonder.

All this info and pictures is fascinating. I'm glad we got some enlightenment

 

[kirby]

Elaina, he simply has a very triangular head. i wouldnt be suprised that when he starts putting on weight, his fat stores will plump up his head, and it will begin to look a little rounder.

it is possible he has some distant genetics from a barbata via GG lines. although i would be suprised if much of this is evident in most GG stock, considering the amount of times they have been outcrossed, bred, inbred, line bred etc. etc.

 

[Paradon]

Anybody have pictures of Rankin dragon. I've seen pictures of them, but they were kindda small and couldn't judge the size of them very well. I hear they are a pretty small species.

 

[kirby]

Anybody have pictures of Rankin dragon. I've seen pictures of them, but they were kindda small and couldn't judge the size of them very well. I hear they are a pretty small species.

<10"

my little rankins boy loves to swim.

 

[Paradon]

Thanks for PICS and VID! I really appreciate!

That is a nice Rankin's you got there. Is he fully grown? Is he pig when it comes to food like the vitticeps?

 

[kirby]

Thanks for PICS and VID! I really appreciate!

That is a nice Rankin's you got there. Is he fully grown? Is he pig when it comes to food like the vitticeps?

he is fully grown, and as you can see... a much smaller species. they are pigs on feeder insects, and dont like their veggies very much, you have to practically wiggle it.

 

[Elaina]

That was too cool! Its the first time I have seen a video of a Rankins. You can see the differences between them and vitticeps. Thanks for sharing that!

 

[LJean]

Do the rankins need to be in their own seperate vivs too?

Loved that video Kirby! Someone, Maxattack, I think, was kind enough to show it to me in a post I had made about itchy water.

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

Elaina, he is a nice looking darker dragon. He probably does have alot of GG lines & they will retain good darkness with good lines that have not been inbred much.
The head is a giveaway though, as Kirby said. The Barbatas have arrow shaped heads, & their eyes do not stand up like GG's do, but instead have a strong flat ridge above their eyes like an eyebrow. They look very different. Plus, the scales are somewhat different too.

Tracie

 

[nesta's mommy]

kirby,

that rankin is adorable!!!

 

[kirby]

& their eyes do not stand up like GG's do, but instead have a strong flat ridge above their eyes like an eyebrow. They look very different.
Tracie

i too have noticed this, they have a different eye lid shape and different expression.