HELP BABYS KEEP DYING

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i cant get my eggs to fully hatch, my first batch (over a year ago) did not hatch all the way, the started piping and then stoped moving, after a couple days i noticed no improvement so i decided to slit them open and they were all very well doveloped but not alive, i dont understand why none of them made it past pipping. there were 32 of them. they were incubated and 82-82 and 60-70 percent humidity, it was a homemade incubator to, the all started pipping at the 90 day mark. this last time i had an egg from a batch that got to wet and i redesigned my incubator, im doing a modified version of substrateless incubating, the peralite around them is almost dry and the humidity is 80-90 percent (they get water in the air instead of being obsorbed thru egg shell) and they are at the same tempature as the first time. i have a sham wow covering the air holes and preventing water from dripping on the eggs, with water with a tad bit of apple cider vinagar (to keep mould away) in the bottom of the incubator, same thing happened as last time it dovelouped and pipped but by the time i cut it out it was gone :( i feel totaly awfull about it. i have no idea wht could be going wrong, i gave the parents plenty of calcium and they have an amazing diet. what are the odds that none of my babys would make it?! this is so depressing. so my question is what would cause a baby beardy to not me able to get out of its shell in time? and what i can do to help the little buggers. i now have another batch in the incubator and so far they are doing amazing and have absolutely no mould and im worried they might end up in the same boat as the other clutches. also when my last baby pipped a pinkish orangish fluid was oozing out of were its back was at, i don t think that is normal. please please anyone who
knows about bearded babys help would be GREATLY apriciated, (it may save the lives of my future hatchlings) you can reply to this or text a reply to my phone, 509-833-2769
 

missAmbettubde

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omg im sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i only saw the bright purple part lol (im new to this forum) please excuse my ignorance, the parents are 2 years old
 

Mistyck

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Did you read through the link I posted?

What are your dragon's weights like? You're not sure how old the male is? Are they related in any way?
 

missAmbettubde

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ya i am actualy very familure with that link it has alot of good info, im thinking maybe lower humitidy a tad and maybe lower temp to 80? it did say on there high tempss can harm the babys, maybe it fluctuating to to high temps and im not realizing it? they arent related at all, i got my 2 females from a breeder and my male was a rescue, i got him about a year and a half ago, and i think the people i got him from said they had him for 8 months. thank you for helping, i am totaly puzzled with this :|
 

Mistyck

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They aren't big enough to be breeding...Their weights should be well over 300g. You really should not be breeding a rescue dragon. Goodness knows what he might have wrong with him, mentally and physically. Did you even take him in for a fecal to see if he had parasites? Did you happen to take your females in for the same?

Females really should be almost 350g+ before breeding. How long are these dragons? Their bodies might be too small to be producing healthy babies...
 

missAmbettubde

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someone gave him to me i dont see why i shouldnt breed him he looks healthy and acts healthy. i do not have a vet certified to work with reptiles in my area, my girls seem beefy. they have realy nice plump tails and realy bright color, i have not seen or noticed anything that would lead me to belive they are unhealthy, i feed them a wide viraty of fruits/veggies and edible plants like chia and flax seed, and bugs, they get superworms, dubia roaches, grass hopers, ocasionaly crickets, and when they were younger my smallest one went into burmation and i fed her wax worms to catch her up, i also give them protein and calcium suppliments with other extra vitamins, do you have any suggestions for getting them up to weight? looking at them you certainly wouldnt think they are underweight, they are 18-22 inches but all 3 have had tail nips (before i got them)..i tried to post a picture but i couldnt figure out how to do it
 

Mistyck

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http://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=152184 <- how to post pics

I'd be interested in seeing what they look like, as my boy is 18" and almost 400g and still looks skinny...His fat pads are nicely filled out, but he's still thin.

And I'm not going to lecture you on reasons why you shouldn't breed a rescue dragon. There are so many reasons why not, but it's your choice to do with what you want.
 

missAmbettubde

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if he ever showed any sighns of being unhealthy i would halt his breeding fast. the only difference between him and my girls are that i know what my girls genetics are. i dont know anything about "fat pads" or how i can get them to gain any more weight, im making a photobucket acount right now.
 

missAmbettubde

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the babys inside the egg are fully doveloped and look realy good, they slice open there egg then nothing, i dont understand why they would do so good untill that certain point and stop there.
 

Mistyck

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Could be genetic disorders...

Plus, it is recommended to not slit open the eggs. If they don't make it out on their own, then they weren't meant to be.
 

missAmbettubde

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i wait untill i am 100% sure they didnt make it beore i slit them open (i want to know exactly what is going wrong inside the eggs so i check (after there decesed), like i said they sit without moving or days, and iv hear of tons of storys were cutting the egg open has saved a life so i dont see why i shouldnt at least try to save any life i can even if it seems doomed (just my opinion)
 
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