feeder advice

[damien6210]

im looking forward to order a new type of feeder who should i buy from? who has the best prices? im looking to buy roaches
thanks

 

[JDWright]

I've ordered roaches (Blatta Lateralis aka Turks) from both aaronpauling.com and thebugdepot.com, both great service (Aaron's was extremely impressive, spent an hour on the phone with me). I only had one dead roach out of the 2 shipments of over 600 roaches total.
My colony is still new, but they seem pretty awesome. As far as being too fast for a beardie, they move really slow when they are cooled down. I'd say 10-15 minutes in the fridge (freezer?!?) and they'll barely be crawling.

 

[bigmac1]

it really depends on what roach you are looking to buy, but either way which ever roach you decided to buy they are way better than crix.

 

[damien6210]

well it dont matter i just need to know who sells roaches that way i have choices between how fast they breed or how big they get

 

[patrickb]

Definitely figure out what species of roach you want as a feeder first of all. Some people like Jason (aka TheRoachGuy) only deal in a certain species. Lobsters, Turks and Dubia are the most common species used as feeders.

Lobsters: These guys put rabbits to shame and then some. They breed faster than you know. The big downside to them is they can climb glass and plastic. Use of vaseline or a "bug barrier" product will keep them from escaping. The downside is that you need to apply this to every container the roaches may be in. Aside from that, they are great nutritious feeders. This species is a live-birth species. A very cheap species that can be ordered for prices similar to crickets. http://aaronpauling.com

Turks: These guys put rabbits to shame, but not like Lobsters. They are probably the second fastest breeder for any feeder species of roach currently in the hobby. They cannot climb glass or smooth plastic (textured plastics they can climb). The fact that they do not climb is a big plus in my book. These guys are also lightning fast speed wise. Very very fast little bugs and can be hard to catch them, and some lazy reptiles won't chase them. This species is an egg laying species. Another cheap species priced similarly to crickets. http://aaronpauling.com or http://thebugpros.com

Dubia: These guys are a mediocre breeder compared to the above two species. Establishing a colony takes a bit more time and patience, but once established will meet most persons needs without a problem. They look more like roly pollies than roaches. They cannot climb glass or smooth plastic (certain textured plastics the younger ones can climb). The young have a tendency to "play dead" when they feel threatened as a defense mechanism. This is a problem with my tarantulas, since they don't know the roach is there. Not a problem with visual hunters like beardies. Their movement speed is quite slow as well. They are the turtles of the roach world. They are quite pricey upfront so can't be ordered regularly as a drop in replacement for crickets, but if you breed them, they ultimately save you money just as breeding the above two species would. They are a live birth species. I would also like to note that this seems to be the most popular roach feeder discussed on these boards currently. http://theroachguy.com

Of the three vendors mentioned above, I have ordered from thebugpros.com and theroachguy.com. My experience with thebugpros wasn't the best, but other members on this forum have mentioned in other threads that they had a perfect experience. I got the bad luck of the draw in that case I assume (they shipped on time and delivered the right quantity, I just had a bunch of die-offs for some reason) TheRoachGuy.com (Jason) I have bought from and he is very good. He participates and answers questions in this forum, and will make that extra effort to answer any other questions in email or pms as well. Can't go wrong with him. Aaronpauling.com I have never dealt with, but I have never read a bad thing about them. Always 100% positive, so I can say if I needed lobsters I would order from him.

Also gonna note, I only breed Turks and Dubias. Lobsters I have no experience with, just the info I read in these forums and various other places so my experience is nil.

 

[bigmac1]

ok makes sense well here are some links to people that sell roaches

http://www.theroachguy.com/
http://www.aaronpauling.com/
http://www.thebugpros.com/

i think there is more people that sell roache but i have recommend any of these web sites for roaches.

 

[bigmac1]

sorry patrickb i posted everything you already had explained i guess we were typing at the same time.

 

[damien6210]

thanks that was very helpful im so tired of crickets chirp,chirp ,OMG they sound like my GF. My BD's are doing their sleep cycle so when they wake up i want to have Delicious bugs ready for them. Again thanks for the info

 

[patrickb]

im so tired of crickets chirp,chirp ,OMG they sound like my GF.

:lol: That just has to be quoted. Not trying to get ya in trouble or anything, but that's classic! A new mastercard commercial in the works. lol

 

[Theroachguy]

Definitely figure out what species of roach you want as a feeder first of all. Some people like Jason (aka TheRoachGuy) only deal in a certain species. Lobsters, Turks and Dubia are the most common species used as feeders.

Lobsters: These guys put rabbits to shame and then some. They breed faster than you know. The big downside to them is they can climb glass and plastic. Use of vaseline or a "bug barrier" product will keep them from escaping. The downside is that you need to apply this to every container the roaches may be in. Aside from that, they are great nutritious feeders. This species is a live-birth species. A very cheap species that can be ordered for prices similar to crickets. http://aaronpauling.com

Turks: These guys put rabbits to shame, but not like Lobsters. They are probably the second fastest breeder for any feeder species of roach currently in the hobby. They cannot climb glass or smooth plastic (textured plastics they can climb). The fact that they do not climb is a big plus in my book. These guys are also lightning fast speed wise. Very very fast little bugs and can be hard to catch them, and some lazy reptiles won't chase them. This species is an egg laying species. Another cheap species priced similarly to crickets. http://aaronpauling.com or http://thebugpros.com

Dubia: These guys are a mediocre breeder compared to the above two species. Establishing a colony takes a bit more time and patience, but once established will meet most persons needs without a problem. They look more like roly pollies than roaches. They cannot climb glass or smooth plastic (certain textured plastics the younger ones can climb). The young have a tendency to "play dead" when they feel threatened as a defense mechanism. This is a problem with my tarantulas, since they don't know the roach is there. Not a problem with visual hunters like beardies. Their movement speed is quite slow as well. They are the turtles of the roach world. They are quite pricey upfront so can't be ordered regularly as a drop in replacement for crickets, but if you breed them, they ultimately save you money just as breeding the above two species would. They are a live birth species. I would also like to note that this seems to be the most popular roach feeder discussed on these boards currently. http://theroachguy.com

Of the three vendors mentioned above, I have ordered from thebugpros.com and theroachguy.com. My experience with thebugpros wasn't the best, but other members on this forum have mentioned in other threads that they had a perfect experience. I got the bad luck of the draw in that case I assume (they shipped on time and delivered the right quantity, I just had a bunch of die-offs for some reason) TheRoachGuy.com (Jason) I have bought from and he is very good. He participates and answers questions in this forum, and will make that extra effort to answer any other questions in email or pms as well. Can't go wrong with him. Aaronpauling.com I have never dealt with, but I have never read a bad thing about them. Always 100% positive, so I can say if I needed lobsters I would order from him.

Also gonna note, I only breed Turks and Dubias. Lobsters I have no experience with, just the info I read in these forums and various other places so my experience is nil.

Patrick,
Wow what a nice well-written message I think you hit all 3 major roaches and took time to explain each one. Just thought I would say thanks for taking the time to share this info with anyone who may come across it.
Jason