Menolly07
Juvie Member
Loiosh – H3/21/2014 - 2 years – F3 dunner, hypotrans
Basking spot- 110 degrees
UVB - ReptiSun Linear Tube Fluorescent that I check with a light meter
Been taking him outside for natural UVB, as well.
Tile and newspaper substrate
Both Mother and half brother (Kaz) died early. Kaz actually had identical issues with eating and digestion. It's why I wonder RE dunner genetics. Mom was an F2 dunner and brother was an F3 dunner.
Hypothesize: Congenital defect? Adenovirus? Took swabs for adeno, need to send in to PATS.
He sees the vet tomorrow. I'm going to ask them to run the following tests:
- Oral culture since immune system is likely weakened. I want to check for URI bacteria before symptoms become visible.
- Blood levels to check for anemia. I think he's deficient
- Adenovirus if they can do it faster than PATS
- Ultrasound to check digestive track and organs
- Check for Protozoa because Kaz had them and developed liver damage prior to me getting him
Loiosh was treated for coccidia and pinworms when he was a few months old. Took two courses of antiparasitics to kick them. Last fecal with Doc was clear.
He would eat occasional superworms and a little veg during the winters. Eventually stopped altogether.
Will not eat on own. Forcing canned tegu food with carnivore care, bee pollen and powdered probiotic, 10 ml a day. 1 ml of unflavoured pedialyte. Daily bath, he drinks. Food and water passes through mostly unabsorbed. He is not pooping solid or creating urates. Poops come out in a puddle of liquid with a little bit of wet white spots. Issue with digestive track?
Prior to his problems beginning he was a VORACIOUS eater but always extremely skinny. He passed normal seeming poops.
History of Illness:
13 November - 553 grams - stopped eating. We presumed it to be the start of brumation.
Stayed awake, metabolism did not slow. Still not eating often. I was concerned. However, I still took it as brumation. He'd had a fecal run in November, and it was clean.
Sometimes he'd eat superworms, hornworms. Eventually stopped hornworms.
14 February – 511 grams -42 grams
13 March – 505 grams -6 grams
21 March – 502 grams -3 grams
14 April – 490 grams -12 grams
19 April – 471 grams -19 grams in 5 days
Began forcing tegu food.
22 April – 507 grams +36 grams
I had some questions. Firstly, has anybody with early generation dunners seen these issues? Secondly, has anybody with an adenovirus positive (or other issue) dragon encountered a similar problem regarding digestion? Was a vet able to figure out what specifically was causing issues with regard to absorption?
Basking spot- 110 degrees
UVB - ReptiSun Linear Tube Fluorescent that I check with a light meter
Been taking him outside for natural UVB, as well.
Tile and newspaper substrate
Both Mother and half brother (Kaz) died early. Kaz actually had identical issues with eating and digestion. It's why I wonder RE dunner genetics. Mom was an F2 dunner and brother was an F3 dunner.
Hypothesize: Congenital defect? Adenovirus? Took swabs for adeno, need to send in to PATS.
He sees the vet tomorrow. I'm going to ask them to run the following tests:
- Oral culture since immune system is likely weakened. I want to check for URI bacteria before symptoms become visible.
- Blood levels to check for anemia. I think he's deficient
- Adenovirus if they can do it faster than PATS
- Ultrasound to check digestive track and organs
- Check for Protozoa because Kaz had them and developed liver damage prior to me getting him
Loiosh was treated for coccidia and pinworms when he was a few months old. Took two courses of antiparasitics to kick them. Last fecal with Doc was clear.
He would eat occasional superworms and a little veg during the winters. Eventually stopped altogether.
Will not eat on own. Forcing canned tegu food with carnivore care, bee pollen and powdered probiotic, 10 ml a day. 1 ml of unflavoured pedialyte. Daily bath, he drinks. Food and water passes through mostly unabsorbed. He is not pooping solid or creating urates. Poops come out in a puddle of liquid with a little bit of wet white spots. Issue with digestive track?
Prior to his problems beginning he was a VORACIOUS eater but always extremely skinny. He passed normal seeming poops.
History of Illness:
13 November - 553 grams - stopped eating. We presumed it to be the start of brumation.
Stayed awake, metabolism did not slow. Still not eating often. I was concerned. However, I still took it as brumation. He'd had a fecal run in November, and it was clean.
Sometimes he'd eat superworms, hornworms. Eventually stopped hornworms.
14 February – 511 grams -42 grams
13 March – 505 grams -6 grams
21 March – 502 grams -3 grams
14 April – 490 grams -12 grams
19 April – 471 grams -19 grams in 5 days
Began forcing tegu food.
22 April – 507 grams +36 grams
I had some questions. Firstly, has anybody with early generation dunners seen these issues? Secondly, has anybody with an adenovirus positive (or other issue) dragon encountered a similar problem regarding digestion? Was a vet able to figure out what specifically was causing issues with regard to absorption?