Supers as a staple w/ crickets thrown in.

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sweetiepie9

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Hi Fellow Canadians: I live in New Westminster, BC, close to Vancouver.
Supers are my staples. I have 5 adult beardies, Lonzo is 8, Sweetie is 5, Didi is 5, Leo is 4 and Rubio is 3. They all eat supers, Didi however every once in awhile notices the cricket keeper for crickets for my gecko & now he just wants crickets! So I have large & medium crickets for both & supers for the rest. I put my supers in wheat bran, as that's what the pet shop uses & they are all good & healthy. I feed them the greens the dragons eat, plus carrot pieces. I have to make sure all their food is dry, or it causes the bran to get moist. I'm not sure if I'm feeding them too often (nightly) but they sure do grow fat when I do that.

I only have access to crickets & supers, & supers are easier to take care of even though I love the noise crickets make, reminds me of back east. No crickets in the Lower Mainland, so I've missed that noise. I moved here from Montreal in 1987 with my son Eric. He's now 27, so time sure does go fast. Sorry off topid :oops:

Supers put good weight on beardies quickly. I've been letting my crew eat whatever amount they want to be good & fat for brumation, which should be coming along any day now. So I do prefer them. I'm hoping to find hornworms & would love to have some dubia.
 

Dracosmommy

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sweetiepie9":13uahmpc said:
Hi Fellow Canadians: I live in New Westminster, BC, close to Vancouver.

Supers put good weight on beardies quickly. I've been letting my crew eat whatever amount they want to be good & fat for brumation, which should be coming along any day now. So I do prefer them. I'm hoping to find hornworms & would love to have some dubia.

Hello Sweetiepie9 my fellow Canadian. :wave: :mrgreen: I live in Mississauga Ontario which is close to Toronto. You should be able to find hornworms. I have a reptile store that sells them. Draco loves them. :mrgreen: I want to switch from crickets to supers. Draco's only 11inches, he's missing some tail. He would be around 12 1/2 to 13 inches if he had it though. :mrgreen: I guess I am going to have to wait till he's a bit bigger from what I've been reading here. If he keeps growing like he has in the past two weeks it might be sooner than later. :lol:
 

Kalyn876

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Hello, I just ordered 6 hornworms from petsmart. I want to make sure my guys like them before ordering more. They don't have them in stock but will special order them. Good luck!

Kalyn
 

AlysaK

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Hello. My beardie is 11.5" and is about 7-8 months old. I just stopped in my local reptile store this weekend and they sold me some supers, butterowrms and catipillars. After reading these posts, I'm now worried that maybe I should not give the supers as he doesn't seem to the right size yet. Is there a reason why the beardie has to be 16" before giving supers? My guy (Draco also) loved them and chowed them down. :)

Thanks!
 

sweetiepie9

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I think it's to do with digestion. I know beardies have a kink in their digestive tract & it straightens out when they become adults. I was told the same thing & I was told not to feed her mealworms, too much shell, not enough meat. The butters are great, soft & squishy. There's also hornworms & repti worm also called phoenix worms are a good staple. They're full of calcium, so you don't have to dust them.
 

Esther19

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They have a kink in their digestive tracts that does not straighten out until they are 16" long. That's why we should not feed supers until they are that length.
 

WyattKB

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Hello fellow Canadian 8) I'm right outside Peterborough Ontario. I go to reptile expos about once a month and pick up medium-large supers there. Usually it's 20-25 for a thousand at expos, unlike 30 dollars plus shipping online per thousand. If there are no expos, then I just order em online.
 

bltkpo

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I am in the same situation. Canada has some really annoying laws.

We are lucky though, down the block is a private pet store, where we got Bindy from, which has been super helpful with gathering information (though, this forum is better)...

The guy there says he CAN get in phoenix worms, if I really want them, but he says that if they aren't ate fast enough they turn into a really nasty wasp thing that I do NOT want.

Sigh.

Then the other day, he said he was having trouble getting silk worms in now a days, because of new restrictions. His source delivers them to him directly, but he has so much trouble getting them.

And of course, the dubia situation.

Course, Bindy is too small (12.5 inches now) too eat supers (though there are smaller ones) but we don't want her addicted either.

I feel your pain!
 

Kalyn876

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bltkpo":2ihout9i said:
I am in the same situation. Canada has some really annoying laws.

We are lucky though, down the block is a private pet store, where we got Bindy from, which has been super helpful with gathering information (though, this forum is better)...

The guy there says he CAN get in phoenix worms, if I really want them, but he says that if they aren't ate fast enough they turn into a really nasty wasp thing that I do NOT want.

Sigh.

Then the other day, he said he was having trouble getting silk worms in now a days, because of new restrictions. His source delivers them to him directly, but he has so much trouble getting them.

And of course, the dubia situation.

Course, Bindy is too small (12.5 inches now) too eat supers (though there are smaller ones) but we don't want her addicted either.

I feel your pain!



Phoenix worms turn into black soldier flys, they aren't really harmful. Well and not to mention most of my worms died before they could start to pupate. :shock:

I can get horn worms from my local petsmart they are special order but they will do it if you ask. Also a lot of pet stores carry pheonix worms but usually they are kept in the back, I always have to ask about them.

Also you can feed a juvie micro superworms, they are teeny weeny! I feed a couple every other day.

Kalyn
 

Dracosmommy

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Kalyn876":iewwf1ca said:
Phoenix worms turn into black soldier flys, they aren't really harmful. Well and not to mention most of my worms died before they could start to pupate. :shock:

I can get horn worms from my local petsmart they are special order but they will do it if you ask. Also a lot of pet stores carry pheonix worms but usually they are kept in the back, I always have to ask about them.

Also you can feed a juvie micro superworms, they are teeny weeny! I feed a couple every other day.

Kalyn
Kalyn: I can't find pheonix worms here at all. The reptile store where I got Draco from has been trying to get them. What store are you going to to get them. I'm in Mississauga Ontario near Toronto. I've asked Petsmart and they don't have them. Our PetValu hasn't even heard of them. All they carry is crickets and supers. Darn I wish I could get my hands on them without having to order over the net. :angry5: :banghead:
 
you should not feed supers as a staple inscest the are not stable insects if you cant get dubias you could always feed silkworms or reptiworms i would go with silkworms they are the best nutritional insect out their for any animal that feeds on insects that is a pet roachs come in second then reptiworms then crix then superworms
 

Kalyn876

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Yes it is the size, you can feed micro supers to juvies. They are teeny supers. I know a lot of people who use supers as a staple with no problems protion control is very important.

I get my phoenix worms from Petland.

Kalyn
 
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