Mucus and little blood

[hdochow]

They are from the desert. They love high temps. You have to teach them to bask. At Nighy for a 7 month old it has to stay above 80 degrees F on the cool side. Please don't give wrong info.

the info that @KarrieRee gave is actually correct. temps of 80°F at night are for ill dragons to help promote their immune system. other than that they need it dark with cool temps at night as long as it does not drop below 65°F.

dragons do not need to be taught to bask any more than humans need to be taught to breathe. if the conditions are correct, they will go to the area they need to be in

babies need basking temps from 100°-105°F during the day. as sub-adult/adult they like it cooler, as mentioned.

for the heat basking spot, light placement is based on temperature, not distance as long as they can't jump up and touch the bulb. for uvb basking, the placement of 6-8 inches would be for a T8 bulb, which must always be inside the enclosure. if you have a T5, it should be 12-15 inches if inside the enclosure, or 8-10 inches if placed on top of the screen, but only if it is a wide hole screen. if it is a fine mesh, the uvb should always be inside of the enclosure.

 

[DallasStorm]

the info that @KarrieRee gave is actually correct. temps of 80°F at night are for ill dragons to help promote their immune system. other than that they need it dark with cool temps at night as long as it does not drop below 65°F.

dragons do not need to be taught to bask any more than humans need to be taught to breathe. if the conditions are correct, they will go to the area they need to be in

babies need basking temps from 100°-105°F during the day. as sub-adult/adult they like it cooler, as mentioned.

for the heat basking spot, light placement is based on temperature, not distance as long as they can't jump up and touch the bulb. for uvb basking, the placement of 6-8 inches would be for a T8 bulb, which must always be inside the enclosure. if you have a T5, it should be 12-15 inches if inside the enclosure, or 8-10 inches if placed on top of the screen, but only if it is a wide hole screen. if it is a fine mesh, the uvb should always be inside of the enclosure.

Sorry that is completely wrong. 100 to 105 I'd for 12 months and older. Yes some dragons have to be taught to bask. My 2 yr old had to learn at a year old when I got him. 65 degrees at night...good gravy. You trying to kill a dragon. 12 months still has to be above 70 degrees at night. Obviously the conditions aren't correct or her dragon wouldn't be having blood or water in their feces. I was literally going through this with my 2 yrs old beardie and went to a Emergency Vet with a friend who had the same issue that is going on. Again, I will not sit here and lie to you. I have alot of knowledge beforehand and even now with my 7 month guy I had for 2 months. I don't take this lightly and when incorrect info is given, it's frustrating.

 

[hdochow]

Sorry that is completely wrong. 100 to 105 I'd for 12 months and older. Yes some dragons have to be taught to bask. My 2 yr old had to learn at a year old when I got him. 65 degrees at night...good gravy. You trying to kill a dragon. 12 months still has to be above 70 degrees at night. Obviously the conditions aren't correct or her dragon wouldn't be having blood or water in their feces. I was literally going through this with my 2 yrs old beardie and went to a Emergency Vet with a friend who had the same issue that is going on. Again, I will not sit here and lie to you. I have alot of knowledge beforehand and even now with my 7 month guy I had for 2 months. I don't take this lightly and when incorrect info is given, it's frustrating.

please cite your sources

 

[DallasStorm]

While beardies can withstand a wide variety of temperatures, here is what I always tell owners. The focal basking hot spot should be between 100 to 110 degrees Fahrenheit. If your beardie is not sitting in the hot spot, gaping with its mouth open, then it probably isn't hot enough. Gaping is to help digest.

The cool side of the tank should be between 80-90°F. At night, the tank can cool down between 72-80°F. Ceramic heat emitters can be used at night if the tank falls below the recommended night temperature.

This is from Google. Go to YouTube and look up LizardGuru or Lord Elion. They will say the same things.

So if this person wants a healthy dragon, I can help, but not when others chime in with wrong info.

 

[DallasStorm]

please cite your sources

It's called listening skills and alot of research. Knowledge is essential.

 

[hdochow]

google and youtube are not a reputable sources. i'm talking about peer reviewed scientific journal articles.

 

[Alesiat]

They are from the desert. They love high temps. You have to teach them to bask. At Nighy for a 7 month old it has to stay above 80 degrees F on the cool side. Please don't give wrong info.

I tried that, temperature was higher than 41 and she hated it. She did not even want to stay in her terrarium so I took lower watt lamps and now it goes between 38-40 and she likes to bask. Also it’s summer so home usually hot I am trying to balance it with AC and it goes well. The parasite to be honest I don’t believe because she is active, eating well and she does not poop blood, she leaves blood after she poop which shows she is having hard time pooping due to large food. She does not have any scar but today I will check properly and put cream if needed. Thank you all for the help

 

[DallasStorm]

google and youtube are not a reputable sources. i'm talking about peer reviewed scientific journal articles.

So what are you offering again? Heard of Dr. Thielen? Look her up. Sorry my Vet is closed for now and yes so people in the real world know exactly what they are doing. You don't need scientific journals as bearded dragons aren't meant for scientific reasons. They are becoming an increasingly popular pet.

 

[hdochow]

So what are you offering again? Heard of Dr. Thielen? Look her up. Sorry my Vet is closed for now and yes so people in the real world know exactly what they are doing. You don't need scientific journals as bearded dragons aren't meant for scientific reasons. They are becoming an increasingly popular pet.

i am concerned that the information you are giving contradicts an entire community here, and the certified reptile specialists i have worked with personally, but you are unwilling to show where you got your information outside of websites where you can post anything even if it is incorrect. i do not have to offer anything outside the information i already posted. you are the one calling people out so it is on you to prove where you got your information. when i rescued my dragon from his previous owner, he was near death and the person that bought him was following what you suggested. i am done because this is distracting from the original topic question. i only hope that alesiat is able to sort through fact and opinion and make the correct decision for their dragon's health and well being.

 

[DallasStorm]

i am concerned that the information you are giving contradicts an entire community here, and the certified reptile specialists i have worked with personally, but you are unwilling to show where you got your information outside of websites where you can post anything even if it is incorrect. i do not have to offer anything outside the information i already posted. you are the one calling people out so it is on you to prove where you got your information. when i rescued my dragon from his previous owner, he was near death and the person that bought him was following what you suggested. i am done because this is distracting from the original topic question. i only hope that alesiat is able to sort through fact and opinion and make the correct decision for their dragon's health and well being.

You are distracting me from giving out the right advice based on my 2 bearded dragons I have here. As I stated, the previous owner to mine had poor husbandry. Red lights were used and now he can't see but shapes and shadows. I got him and she claimed he basked, ate and went to the bathroom fine. 10 days after I had him we were at the emergency Vet. He was impacted from improper heating as he was impacted from dubia roaches. He was severely dehydrated and his urates were like chalk. Took me a month to clean him out from being impacted. 3 months before I got him, he tested positive for Coccidia. She never gave him any meds for it. So I am still trying to get him negative for that. I spent hours, and months doing research before getting one. He didn't know how to bask, so I had to keep putting him where he needed to be and now he does it perfectly.
A friend rescued a dragon that was gray, has MBD and had a hard time using his back legs. I gave her a custom enclosure, and told her all the things she needed. He is a normal color and thriving. However, she started to not pay attention as it is harder for him to get up a hide unless you make one out of slate rocks. So he wasn't basking and his bugs caused impaction with a ton of blood and water/mucus. He ended up with Coccidia because his food was rotting inside of him and caused parasites. There are so many stories, but I will stand by my suggestions since I DO know what I am talking about even without proper documentation for you. I would NEVER give out wrong info to hurt anyone's dragon.

 

[Alesiat]

You are distracting me from giving out the right advice based on my 2 bearded dragons I have here. As I stated, the previous owner to mine had poor husbandry. Red lights were used and now he can't see but shapes and shadows. I got him and she claimed he basked, ate and went to the bathroom fine. 10 days after I had him we were at the emergency Vet. He was impacted from improper heating as he was impacted from dubia roaches. He was severely dehydrated and his urates were like chalk. Took me a month to clean him out from being impacted. 3 months before I got him, he tested positive for Coccidia. She never gave him any meds for it. So I am still trying to get him negative for that. I spent hours, and months doing research before getting one. He didn't know how to bask, so I had to keep putting him where he needed to be and now he does it perfectly.
A friend rescued a dragon that was gray, has MBD and had a hard time using his back legs. I gave her a custom enclosure, and told her all the things she needed. He is a normal color and thriving. However, she started to not pay attention as it is harder for him to get up a hide unless you make one out of slate rocks. So he wasn't basking and his bugs caused impaction with a ton of blood and water/mucus. He ended up with Coccidia because his food was rotting inside of him and caused parasites. There are so many stories, but I will stand by my suggestions since I DO know what I am talking about even without proper documentation for you. I would NEVER give out wrong info to hurt anyone's dragon.

You are also right but I think it depends on dragon. For example higher than 41 right now is too much for Merlin, when summer started she was having 41-42 degree. But she started glass surfing non stop and never basked, she did not want to stay in terrarium I took her out for few days to understand what’s going on, they told me because she sees herself on glass, I put stickers didn’t change. Later I asked from where I took her and they told me to take 25 watt lamp also drop the temperature to 36. I tried that but I noticed 36 is too low and now AC is working well (it was broken) I added a book under basking spot made the temperature 38-39 now I can see that she is enjoying. I keep terrarium clean, her food completely clean, I feed her with my hands to avoid making bugs contact with her terrarium to make sure she will not get parasites from those things. The only thing I did wrong was giving her large crickets and dubias because I couldn’t find smaller. Where I live there is only 2 different reptile shop so it’s kinda hard for me to find small bugs but now I’m breeding them as well. The bleeding part made me scared about parasites but I have noticed the blood appears only when she eats large things and I also confirmed this here thanks to you guys. I found one reptile doctor in Türkiye and immediately sent the photos to him and he told me it’s most probably because she is struggling to poop as well. Ofcourse I need test to make sure she is completely healthy but guys here in Greece we are not lucky like you. There is 2 different reptile doctor and you all know more than them trust me. I appreciate all of the help and thanks for replying immediately and sharing your thoughts. It’s nice to find this site and community, thank you all so much

 

[DallasStorm]

You are also right but I think it depends on dragon. For example higher than 41 right now is too much for Merlin, when summer started she was having 41-42 degree. But she started glass surfing non stop and never basked, she did not want to stay in terrarium I took her out for few days to understand what’s going on, they told me because she sees herself on glass, I put stickers didn’t change. Later I asked from where I took her and they told me to take 25 watt lamp also drop the temperature to 36. I tried that but I noticed 36 is too low and now AC is working well (it was broken) I added a book under basking spot made the temperature 38-39 now I can see that she is enjoying. I keep terrarium clean, her food completely clean, I feed her with my hands to avoid making bugs contact with her terrarium to make sure she will not get parasites from those things. The only thing I did wrong was giving her large crickets and dubias because I couldn’t find smaller. Where I live there is only 2 different reptile shop so it’s kinda hard for me to find small bugs but now I’m breeding them as well. The bleeding part made me scared about parasites but I have noticed the blood appears only when she eats large things and I also confirmed this here thanks to you guys. I found one reptile doctor in Türkiye and immediately sent the photos to him and he told me it’s most probably because she is struggling to poop as well. Ofcourse I need test to make sure she is completely healthy but guys here in Greece we are not lucky like you. There is 2 different reptile doctor and you all know more than them trust me. I appreciate all of the help and thanks for replying immediately and sharing your thoughts. It’s nice to find this site and community, thank you all so much

You are most welcome. It was like I said at the first comment, that the blood was from coming out and it's making their vent raw. Not exactly what I said verbatim, but very similar. When my friends beardie had it happen, it looked like a small crime scene. He had even regurgitated. It was bad! He had Coccidia from not having the proper basking because his hard time walking with MBD. He is way better though.
Wow, you live in Greece! That is on my bucket list of places to go! I know some countries aren't even allowed to order bugs or certain bugs at all. I know a YouTuber that lives in Canada and it is illegal for them to have dubia roaches. He ordered some that were freeze dried. However, I am sorry you have limited choices on Vets. That is hard.
I know one rule of thumb that I when asked many breeders, off Morph Market and the Reptile Expo all live breeders and dragon tables, before I got Riley my most recent addition, that when thinking about bugs to feed do not go bigger than in between their eyes. That made sense to me. Had him 2 months and he is 7 months. He was 7³/⁴ inches and 32 grams and now he is 14 ¹/⁴ inches and 186 grams. So he is doing fabulous.
I never did ask you what size enclosure you have? I did notice you said glass. Yes they hate to see their reflection as they think it's another dragon or predator coming for them and they get very aggressive and stressed by it. If you can find a favorite background, fabric (as long as you don't put near heat lamps) you might need to put something on the outside all the way around, just not the front or top obviously...lol. Both the sides and back covered full should work unless he is facing a window or can see one.
Send some pics of her plz. I would love to see her.

 

[Alesiat]

You are most welcome. It was like I said at the first comment, that the blood was from coming out and it's making their vent raw. Not exactly what I said verbatim, but very similar. When my friends beardie had it happen, it looked like a small crime scene. He had even regurgitated. It was bad! He had Coccidia from not having the proper basking because his hard time walking with MBD. He is way better though.
Wow, you live in Greece! That is on my bucket list of places to go! I know some countries aren't even allowed to order bugs or certain bugs at all. I know a YouTuber that lives in Canada and it is illegal for them to have dubia roaches. He ordered some that were freeze dried. However, I am sorry you have limited choices on Vets. That is hard.
I know one rule of thumb that I when asked many breeders, off Morph Market and the Reptile Expo all live breeders and dragon tables, before I got Riley my most recent addition, that when thinking about bugs to feed do not go bigger than in between their eyes. That made sense to me. Had him 2 months and he is 7 months. He was 7³/⁴ inches and 32 grams and now he is 14 ¹/⁴ inches and 186 grams. So he is doing fabulous.
I never did ask you what size enclosure you have? I did notice you said glass. Yes they hate to see their reflection as they think it's another dragon or predator coming for them and they get very aggressive and stressed by it. If you can find a favorite background, fabric (as long as you don't put near heat lamps) you might need to put something on the outside all the way around, just not the front or top obviously...lol. Both the sides and back covered full should work unless he is facing a window or can see one.
Send some pics of her plz. I would love to see her.

I think I know that YouTuber too heheh I watch them non stop yes we have glass terrarium the sizes for now 35x17x17 inches for now and as cm 90x45x45 I don’t know how many gallon as we don’t use that measurement here. I will get bigger terrarium when she is close to 1 year but now it’s enough. I printed desert pictures and put all of the glass for her to not stressed because of that anymore and it worked she doesn’t mind staying any corner of terrarium right now. I have baby dubias in bin and waiting for them to get bigger and this morning cut the roaches into pieces and feed her she liked them as well here some photos of my cutiepie