Metabolic Bone Disease

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rookie23

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Hi all,

I am new to the forum and new to owning a Bearded Dragon. It all started when my co-worker offered to me his pet because the family wanted it in a new home where it might get more attention or play time. So I looked into the pet and did some researched and loved the idea. I took him home and he hadn't moved from the spot I put him in since I moved him into the new cage. He came in a much smaller one and I had already set up a bigger one in advance.

I took him to the pet shop for a "look-at" and was told that he was in a bad set of MBD. I have the proper lighting, and I can give him the proper food and supplements, but I have to hand feed and water him because he won't move on his own. He even has periodic spasms where he arcs his back, his head goes up, and his mouth or jaw goes wide open as if he's crying out in pain or something. During this spasm he'll hold this position until he slowly comes down out the shape and then back to his normal laying down position.

His rear legs have no movement, and he can barely lift his upper body up with his front legs. I feel bad for the Dragon but it's not what I signed up for. I was told he was healthy and moved about and did such things a healthy Dragon could do.

I see it that I have three options: Relieve the Dragon's suffering and put it to sleep, care for it until it can care for it's self, or give it back to the original owner and buy a new young Dragon from a pet shop and start over.


Putting it to sleep sounds harsh and as if I don't care just as giving it back to the original owner does but this isn't what I wanted. And I don't know how long it will take until the Dragon gets better. I don't even know if he will get better. He at least won't get any worse but any worse would be death. He can't move himself! That's horrible. That's why I thought maybe I should put him out of his misery but part of me says he deserves a shot. He still eats but only if I hold him and hand feed him like a baby.

Any thoughts or ideas, or opinions?
 

Drache613

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Hello,

I realize this is a difficult decision for you especially if you are not experienced to care for an ill dragon or have the time.
I would hold off on euthanising right now because he may still have a chance. Most vets wont hastily put down a healthy
animal, even ones with metabolic bone disease, but it depends on the severity.
Do you have any pictures of him?
Which UVB light are you using? A fluorescent tube bulb or a compact/coil light?
What type of calcium supplementation will you use?
They can recover from metabolic bone disease, though, they will always be susceptible to low calcium issues. Does he have
any deviations of his bones, etc? He is in the severe stage right now, where his blood calcium is extremly low. He needs a
calcium booster shot, & liquid calcium immediately to give him the best chance.

Only you can make the decision as to what is best for you, as to whether you will keep him or not. He does deserve a chance
though.


Tracie
 

rookie23

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Drache613":2sjp7ygu said:
Hello,

I realize this is a difficult decision for you especially if you are not experienced to care for an ill dragon or have the time.
I would hold off on euthanising right now because he may still have a chance. Most vets wont hastily put down a healthy
animal, even ones with metabolic bone disease, but it depends on the severity.
Do you have any pictures of him?
Which UVB light are you using? A fluorescent tube bulb or a compact/coil light?
What type of calcium supplementation will you use?
They can recover from metabolic bone disease, though, they will always be susceptible to low calcium issues. Does he have
any deviations of his bones, etc? He is in the severe stage right now, where his blood calcium is extremly low. He needs a
calcium booster shot, & liquid calcium immediately to give him the best chance.

Only you can make the decision as to what is best for you, as to whether you will keep him or not. He does deserve a chance
though.


Tracie


Forgive me I can not seem to post a picture here does anyone know how?
 

rookie23

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I'm thinking this whole thing has taken a turn for the worst because I tried to feed him one cricket and he has not had anything since yesterday where he only ate four, and the one cricket this evening he didn't get down. It came back up 10 minutes later. If he can't eat what am I to do? I don't have the kind of cash to take him to a vet or get the booster shot he needs, and I don't think he's going to be able to make it past this but I can give him time. He'll just continue to suffer. I hold him to the water dish and he drinks but that's all for now.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

You can go to www.photobucket.com to upload pictures, then download them to here, if you would like to.

How is he doing today? I am sorry that he is not doing well. It may be too late to even take him back to the previous owner/shop. Can you try to get some chicken or turkey baby food, & mix it with squash baby food to feed him? You can get a plastic dropper or a plastic syringe to feed him with. Just try to drip it onto the end of his nose & he should lick it off of the end of his nose.
Please let us know how he is doing.

Tracie
 

Drache613

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Hello,

How is he doing today?
He does look pretty badly debilitated. The previous owner did not take very good care of him at all.
Were you able to get any baby food to feed him yet? That type of food would digest easier than feeders right now.
Are you using a UVB light on him right now, & what are the temperatures in his tank?

Let us know how he is doing.

Tracie
 

rookie23

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Drache613":1dcov9qu said:
Hello,

How is he doing today?
He does look pretty badly debilitated. The previous owner did not take very good care of him at all.
Were you able to get any baby food to feed him yet? That type of food would digest easier than feeders right now.
Are you using a UVB light on him right now, & what are the temperatures in his tank?

Let us know how he is doing.

Tracie

Tracie,

Thank you for your concern, thoughts, and bit of helpful advice. However, while I was out this afternoon at a music rehearsal Gary (dragon) passed away. My set up for him was a 40 gallon breeder, two 10.0 Repti-glo UVB 26W bulbs (one on either end of the tank) and a heat bulb in one corner as a baking area. This was all set up before I received Gary. When I got him he was already in bad shape but I didn't realize until the next day (me being new to dragon caring and all).

So now that he is gone I informed the previous owner (my co-worker) and he didn't understand why or how. He claimed he gave him the calcium supplements with food but I took a look at the bulb he was using. It was a Exo Terra Sun Glo 60W. I did some research on the bulb and found that it is only a UVA not a UVB. Apparently my co-worker doesn't know the difference and their significance. Tragic. Gary since day one probably never got the care he needed or deserved and it was coincidental that I received him at the end of his time.

I was heart broken and saddened by the loss so much even only after two/three days of having him because I had researched the Bearded Dragons for two weeks and had high hopes for a cool pet only to have it die on me. My fiance being the sweetheart she is this evening bought me a newborn dragon. He seems quite happy here in his new home and very curious but we have yet to pick out a name.

Any suggestions?

Thank you for the help and support in the effort to accommodate Gary. May he suffer no more and rest in piece. :(
 

Drache613

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Hello,

I am so very sorry that Gary passed away. :cry: I am heartbroken for you. It is unfair that this happens because people are misinformed on products, etc. At least he really was not alone in a pet store, but, was at home with you in a nice warm tank. This was definitely not your fault at all. The SunGlo is just a basking light, so it did not provide any UVB at all for him then.

That was very nice of your fiance to bring you home a little newborn. I hope he will be comfortable in his new home. You can post some pictures for us. There are so many names to choose from. It is hard initially since you don't know the sex of him.


Tracie
 

rookie23

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Drache613":1o6ft8cp said:
Hello,

I am so very sorry that Gary passed away. :cry: I am heartbroken for you. It is unfair that this happens because people are misinformed on products, etc. At least he really was not alone in a pet store, but, was at home with you in a nice warm tank. This was definitely not your fault at all. The SunGlo is just a basking light, so it did not provide any UVB at all for him then.

That was very nice of your fiance to bring you home a little newborn. I hope he will be comfortable in his new home. You can post some pictures for us. There are so many names to choose from. It is hard initially since you don't know the sex of him.


Tracie

From what I can understand (and I may be misinformed) the sex can not be known for some time because it's so young? So we were trying to find some uni-sex names so that we don't get attached to a boys name and find it's a girl or vice versa. As it so happens Gary was a female. Go figure. I have snapped a couple pictures and more to come. I will try to upload them soon to photo bucket and post the address.

Thanks a lot.
 
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