Lizard puberty, or an issue?

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We're not sure how old Bandit (male) and Banzai (female) are, but they are each pushing 19 inches long and both weigh more than 400 g now. (We got them as juvies from PetSmart, so we just don't know). However, there are a couple of new behaviors that we are beginning to notice from them and I wondered if they're just being pubescent.

Behavior number one, and it's the one that's worrying me more, is that they've gotten really picky and erratic about food. Bandit loves his squash, all kinds, but he leaves some of his greens behind and won't touch crickets anymore. He'll gorge on superworms one day then eat maybe three dubia and a superworm the next day while acting otherwise alert and normal. Banzai won't touch the crickets anymore either and eats uneven portions of worms and dubia as well, and is hiding more often with just her head sticking out of her cave when she almost never hid before. They now both reject prey that has been dusted, so we are experimenting with dusting greens instead. My husband says he has better luck feeding them if he lets them one of them at a time out on the living room floor and drops superworms in front of them so they can hunt "free range." I am afraid that some of this is my fault because I work a new job with uneven hours and they don't always get fed by the same person at the same time each day.

The other new behavior is what makes me think they must be hitting puberty. They live separately and can't see each other unless one or both are out cuddling or exploring the house (always supervised--we have other animals, and they themselves used to have bullying issues, so we generally keep them apart). Once, and only once, they were on the floor together and Bandit head-bobbed for the very first time, Banzai dashed and Bandit made an attempt to mount her, which I quite inconsiderately put a stop to. Now, if Bandit notices Banzai somewhere, he gets jet black in the beard, wave/stomps, and starts bobbing forcefully. If she notices him doing this, she very delicately nods back and graciously waves at him. They will go on doing this even in their enclosures and even after the other lizard is out of sight, and Bandit in particular seems sad to be back in his enclosure when he settles down afterwards. He clings to his branch and puts his little head down and looks so pathetic.

Are these normal issues when the hormones start flowing? I hate seeing my Bandit look so sad. And does anyone know an alternate method of calcium supplement? We're using recently-changed Reptisun 10.0 tube lights so it's just a matter of getting the calcium into their diets to begin with.

Any help is appreciated.
 

MsCarter

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The head bobbing in your male is perfectly normal especially since he knows a female is around. Unless you plan to breed I'd definitely keep them separated, but that behavior is nothing to be alarmed about and is most likely hormonal.

As for the food, they can be very picky eaters at times. I recently started giving my female supers and now she is refusing all veggies and dubias (which use to be her favorites). Now I have completely cut supers out in order to get her back on track with her dubias. At 19" they are most likely adults (may or may not have a little more growing to do) but It is normal for them to begin eating less insects. You can actually get liquid calcium if they aren't eating dusted insects. You will have to inject it into their mouths but it's quite easy after a few times of doing so.

What are your females temps? It's sounds as if she may be either getting overheated or possibly brumation, it's that time of year
 

dragonmama2047

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Her temps have been a little uneven--here in Arizona it's monsoon season and the day can start hot and sunny then go cold and rainy, and our house isn't that well insulated. Overall, I've managed to keep the basking branches in the low to mid hundreds and the cool side of the tank in the high eighties, as measured with an infrared gun. I seem to remember that adults want cooler basking spots than babies, though, and if she's an adult it may be too warm in there for her. I can try lowering the temps and see what happens--if it's brumation that shouldn't change her behavior.

We're holding off on breeding for the time being both because she's young and because it requires expertise, time, and dedication that I know I don't have yet. I'm actually relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who's had issues with beardies latching onto supers and refusing other food. :banghead: The supers may have to go.
 

kingofnobbys

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You are not alone , see my thread about my horny teenage boy beardie Toothless .... he's transformed lately into a superobsessive sex maniac .... we don't plan on breeding him with either of girls (Rex who's about 4 yr old, and Peppa his sibling (10 months old) - least not this spring and summer (don't have incubator or the space for more lizards), and he's just full of beans and wont sit still when he's out (makes it had to hand feed him his crickets).

We survived Puff when he went through the same phase , and I'm sure we'll survive Toothless, and you will survive your Bandit's horny teenager phase, but you're in for a torrid and interesting time for a while.

Puff became the sweetest most laid back and effectionate boy once his hormonal surge subsided.
 
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