Is Bearded Dragon Cohabitation A Good Plan?

[troyncindy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T4I5_pJUEw

 

[troyncindy]

housing dragons together can be very rewarding. a colony of dragons living together are much more active and less boring than one living in Solitary confinement. though, ya have to use your head, ya can't toss in a 11 inch dragon with an adult. nor would i suggest tossing a dragon into an already claimed enclosure. if you're planning on housing dragons together, do it from an early age, keep an eye on them,,, dragons are animals too. obviously if it never has attention or never seen another dragon and you toss one into its enclosure, theres going to be issues, issues from being scared, all scared animals can be dangerous. common sense can go a long way, obviously some people shouldn't have pets. all our pets have all their body parts

 

[smergy]

one last comment because i guess i keep getting emails from all of this arguing, the videos about the ones living together that was where i first found info on if they are ok to live together, the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T4I5_pJUEw i actually saw this when building my bigger cage.

housing dragons together can be very rewarding. a colony of dragons living together are much more active and less boring than one living in Solitary confinement. though, ya have to use your head, ya can't toss in a 11 inch dragon with an adult. nor would i suggest tossing a dragon into an already claimed enclosure. if you're planning on housing dragons together, do it from an early age, keep an eye on them,,, dragons are animals too. obviously if it never has attention or never seen another dragon and you toss one into its enclosure, theres going to be issues, issues from being scared, all scared animals can be dangerous. common sense can go a long way, obviously some people shouldn't have pets. all our pets have all their body parts

this is what i was told as well, my first male i got he was not even a month yet, and when we went to the reptile show we talked to the other breaders, said how long the male was and got the two females, one the same size the other just slightly smaller, not by much but she is, now with that said, the video you put up there troyncindy basically said what i was told, the one male with the two females and that is what we got;

now they all got put in the new cage together so nobody owned it yet, they were all new to it, they play together, eat together, and like i said my wife doesnt work so they are watched closely, we were told the complete opposite of what some are saying here and i see it, that bearded dragons are very social.

the final note here i have to ask, because i have read one say he took out his two males that had never met and they fought or that i read that you introduced one into the other environment later on and they fought, my question i guess is for the ones that say they have seen it first hand is

1) were they both males/females -and not any others
2) did you have one live in the tank for awhile and then introduce the other one later
3) did you have separate food dishes
4) was the viv big enough so they could have separate basking/cooling spots
and lastly was the viv big enough so they could get away from eachother and wernt so bunched up because like it was said if the viv is to small, they cant have seperate basking spots or are cramed together they can get cranky

 

[troyncindy]

i'm not sure who on here said they weren't social animals, seems this site is just one persons ideas spread around. in my experiences, ( can't argue my experiences) they are very social. waving and head bobbing, the lady dances, THESE ARE ALL SOCIAL BEHAVIORS.

 

[Germ]

I love it how the moderators pick and choose the info they want to leave on the site. a question was asked about cohabitation, you can't just delete the answers you don't like. does hitler run this? its his way or no way?

Posted by moderator: The original poster asked that the argumentative posts be removed so that is what was done. The moderators here and Administrator DO have a right to delete whatever we deem necessary to prevent conflicts.

cause 5 people flood a site and remove info that goes against them doesn't make their info right, just saying

The posts that were argumentative, childish name calling among other juvenile methods of argument, etc, by all parties involved, became personal attacks more than an educational discussion between members, were asked to be removed & the Mods\Admin complied with the request.

You have an opinion, point of view, that I vehemently disagree with, but you have the right to voice it in a proper manner. There are many more unsuccessful cohabitations than successful ones. Some successful ones definitely depend on the setup, size of enclosure & temperament of the individual BDs housed. The majority of keepers do not have the luxury of providing many of these needs, & even if provided, is a crap shoot if it might be successful without injuries or not, but they attempt it anyway.

You have your opinions, I\we have ours. There is no problem with posting & discussing the different opinions, if done so in an adult manner. Personal attacks, because of a difference of opinions gets no where & takes away from the purpose of the discussion, is no longer informative & educational. This is why I asked that the whole argument be removed, both sides, not just yours.

You came right back with an attack & name calling to the Admin & Mods. Your views are welcome, if you want to keep it civil. But if you want to continue to act & post in an aggressive manner, with personal attacks & name calling, please start your own thread on the subject, these methods & attitude are not welcome on this one.

 

[troyncindy]

thats awesome. I don't recall any name calling, but i'm over it, i understand how forums work with their cliques. have a nice evening

 

[Claudiusx]

housing dragons together can be very rewarding for the human.

-Brandon

 

[Skymall007]

housing dragons together can be very rewarding for the human.

-Brandon

That wasn't the quote. Just saying. I am too new to bearded dragons to pick a side on this. But I like reading both sides. I think that quote misrepresents what Troycindy was saying. They never said "rewarding for the human." While you may not agree with their philosophy, such a misquote makes it look as though Troycindy doesn't care about his/her dragon(s). Everything they said showed that their decisions were well thought out and in his/her opinion in the best interest of their animals.

 

[Claudiusx]

That's why I put it in red.

There is no benefit, nothing rewarding to the dragon. The only benefits to housing two or more dragons in one tank is for the benefit of the human, rather it being able to see them more "active" (which are displays of dominance and submission...) or whether it be because its cheaper to house two in one tank. Not one single benefit is placed upon the dragon who has no say in the matter.

Think about it. Would you rather be dominated and have to always be submissive, or would you rather have your own spot. Of course there is a chance that you might be the dominate one, picking on the submissive one, but empathy tells me that separate would be best.

All I want to hear, is one benefit TO THE DRAGON for cohabitation. I will give my postings in this thread a rest if one legitimate (see legitimate) reason can be shown to me. As that is my main reason against it.

-Brandon

 

[troyncindy]

in your opinion. I'm sorry you have had bad experiences, best of luck how ever you prefer to house your pet

 

[Claudiusx]

Yes it is my opinion, and my experiences.

That is why I clearly asked for someone elses(yours would do) opinion or thoughts on what just one single benefit to the dragon would be. Because for the life of me, I can't think of one.

-Brandon

 

[troyncindy]

I'm not here trying to change your ways, i answered a question that was asked on a forum. i'm not debating. i said good luck in your future housing projects

 

[smergy]

well from what i have been told, read about the benefit to have more than one together is actually in one of those videos, it talks about them having more of an interaction when in their VIV and also i was told that another benefit was that they needed to be with good company and if you couldn't/be with them 24/7 they can build that social skills they already have with having the others. change your mind, no that's not my intention but i am mearly saying what i have been told is a benefit of having more than one together.

also from what i have seen the benefit of mine with their companion ship is that when one or two are separated i can tell the other gets upset and will stair you down until the others are returned, so in that either like eachother or just want to have the other s in their to size them up to fight, at this point i am going for the first, they eat, sleep and play together, they all get moody when one is sheding if one is mad then they all are, so i have clearly seen the benefit.

 

[RelentlessChaos]

Welp, there goes my interest in owning multiple dragons.

 

[smergy]

y would you not want to own multiple, it is great i have my 2 female and 1 male and i love how much fun they are, they are now about 2-3 months old and they are all growing, eating alot together adn well i think just the one is boring, just my opinion.