how to get two bearded dragons to coexist

[dragon141992]

im looking up vets around me right now . i have to call around tomorrow cause the websites arnt much help

 

[Germ]

The previously Quoted thread With Pictures,
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=154908

G.

 

[bambichik39]

I dont understand why this topic is on here every single day. It's on every care sheet, and if you simply use the search button you will see 10000 topics just like this. They are solitary animals, end of story. If you don't have the money on hand to take one to the vet, you should definitely not have two.

 

[RedInkAus]

I dont understand why this topic is on here every single day. It's on every care sheet, and if you simply use the search button you will see 10000 topics just like this. They are solitary animals, end of story. If you don't have the money on hand to take one to the vet, you should definitely not have two.

Probably because there are success stories out there of dragons co-habitating in a "correct" set up.

 

[Beardednoob]

I am surprised by the responses on this thread, also surprised it hasn't gotten any warnings.
To put it simply it isn't very often that 2 dragons of any gender can coexist without running into an incident at some point. There are stories of 2 females being kept together but, please regard these as just stories. Doing some reading and digging on the internet for 10 minutes will provide the same answers over and over again. Heed these as warnings. Make the best decision and move on.

 

[jjh1]

The previously Quoted thread With Pictures,
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=154908

G.

Okay did you see what Germ posted he is the original poster of this quote and an expert on bearded dragons, you really need to have alook at all the pictures that he posted on beardies that were housed with others, they are solitary animals.

Please read what Germ put up... for the health and safety of your bearded dragons

 

[jjh1]

I have two babie bearded dragons one i have to take back cause i dont have the money to take her to the vet cause im pritty sure shes got paracites but the petstore has there own vet so she will b in good hands. both r girls if i get another one can they be in the same tank?is there some way for two females to coexist in the same enclosure?

The answer to the Heading Question is a resounding NO!

If you read this it will explain why to you if you would like me to post some pictures of what happens I can do that there are some pretty graphic ones

This is a subject that I am quite familiar with personally, through my own experience, experience of personal acquaintances with these creatures & extensive research.

Bearded Dragons are a dominance oriented species, solitary creatures, this is Hard Wired into their character. In their natural habitat, they do not cohabit, travel in pairs or groups, they are loners & have absolutely no familial ties. Breeding is of opportunity, not planning or emotional ties.




They do not need or want buddies. Do not get lonely. It is a proven scientific fact that they have a Severely underdeveloped portion of the brain that governs, among other things, emotion. That cute looking stacking that we often see pictures of, is not them together for warmth (Cold Blooded ), hugging each other, closeness, friendship, Love or anything similar to these.




It is them vying for dominance, the better heat, the better basking spot, coveting a spot just because the other has it, to be King or Queen of the castle. This is their instinct, to dominate, the weaker ones are dominated or eliminated & it is not in their nature to be submissive.




Attitudes & demeanors can change in a split second, very aggressively, to often too fast for intervention to prevent possibly very serious injury. Many BDs with missing toes, limbs, tails or worse are frequently the testimonial to this. We cannot be monitoring them 24\7, even if we could, their possible quick, seemingly unprovoked aggressive nature towards each other, at times completely out of previous character, can be, again, too fast for intervention, with devastating, possibly deadly results.




Periodically, the right combination of 2 females will be successful, but more often than not, fail sooner or later. Males should never be housed together. Male/Female combinations should only be for breeding purposes, only until the deed is done (Generally minutes to a week), then immediately separated.

It only takes ONCE for serious injury to occur, no matter what the cause or motive, many times there is no apparent reason. There is not only the physical aspect, but the stress factor which affects their all round well-being, as well. While you may not notice physical problems (BDs Are notorious for hiding, not showing problems until too late, Dragon down) it can & will shorten their over all life expectancy. Another aspect to consider is illness, should one get sick or have medical problems, very likely there is the possibility you will have two sick animals or at least have to have the other checked also. The price of one Vet visit, fecal & medications, would generally, pretty much cover the cost of a new setup, if you shop properly.

Please take this into consideration, when contemplating cohabitation. More times than not, it is complications in the making, sometimes with very drastic consequences. You may come home to carnage that you won’t soon forget.

Cohabitation of BDs is for the benefit of the Keeper, whether it be for their viewing pleasure, or cost\room effectiveness. It is not in the best interest of the animal’s health & well being. Germain

 

[Germ]

I am surprised by the responses on this thread, also surprised it hasn't gotten any warnings.

Curious as to what you feel should be warned about? Seems to have been a reasonable thread, other than quite a number of repeats, don't really see the need for the same quote being fully posted 3 times, though.

G.

 

[Germ]

Probably because there are success stories out there of dragons co-habitating in a "correct" set up.

Agreed, there has been 'Stories' of the odd successful cohabitations, but those instances of proven continued success, are very few & far between. The odds are very, very high in favor of failure & it is the animals that suffer when it does. Personally, I don't feel it worth the very high risks, just to be able to brag that 'You Beat The Odds', because there is absolutely no benefits to the pets in question to cohabit & is an unnatural experience to them. There is no 'Correct Setup', bad enough being Captive, let alone being captive, with no escape from a cannibalistic predator or violent bully when the occasion arises & much, much more often than not, It Will.

G.

 

[Germ]

the one is in her own cage. i dk why but i think they really care about eachother lol.

Why do people insist on inserting Human values/emotions on pets that simply do not have the capability to think that way.

It has been some time since you have posted. Did you get them checked for parasites & how are they making out now that they have been separated.

G.

 

[RedInkAus]

Probably because there are success stories out there of dragons co-habitating in a "correct" set up.

Agreed, there has been 'Stories' of the odd successful cohabitations, but those instances of proven continued success, are very few & far between. The odds are very, very high in favor of failure & it is the animals that suffer when it does. Personally, I don't feel it worth the very high risks, just to be able to brag that 'You Beat The Odds', because there is absolutely no benefits to the pets in question to cohabit & is an unnatural experience to them. There is no 'Correct Setup', bad enough being Captive, let alone being captive, with no escape from a cannibalistic predator or violent bully when the occasion arises & much, much more often than not, It Will.

G.

Few success stories over your side of the pond.... more than a few on this side . The "caresheet love" passed around is geared for new dragon owners and is specific for 1 dragon per enclosure, however on this side there are people who set up for multiple dragons. You mention multiple dragons in the one enclosure outside of OZ and the result is threads like this.

 

[Ferociouscorpion]

Few success stories over your side of the pond.... more than a few on this side . The "caresheet love" passed around is geared for new dragon owners and is specific for 1 dragon per enclosure, however on this side there are people who set up for multiple dragons. You mention multiple dragons in the one enclosure outside of OZ and the result is threads like this.

Your right there are people who have house multiple dragons without any incidents but there are many who have done that and it ended up badly. I would like to share my own experiences. Although I have never housed 2 dragons in the same enclosure I would never do that b/c when I took out both my dragons to let them roam around on my bed they were fine for like 20 mins. Then all of a sudden one decided to try and take a bite out of the other one. Luckily I was there and quickly pushed aside the one that was attacking. B/c of this incident I'd could imagine that if they were in an enclosed space and no one to watch them it would've ended up badly even though they seemed fine being with each other.

Also there is nothing wrong with the "caresheet love" being passed around. Caresheets teach people how to care for their dragon. The goal is to ensure health and happiness while minimizing danger. Why risk the health of your dragons when there are better alternatives? If you enjoy and love your animals there is no good reason to not follow what the caresheet says.

 

[RedInkAus]

Few success stories over your side of the pond.... more than a few on this side . The "caresheet love" passed around is geared for new dragon owners and is specific for 1 dragon per enclosure, however on this side there are people who set up for multiple dragons. You mention multiple dragons in the one enclosure outside of OZ and the result is threads like this.

Your right there are people who have house multiple dragons without any incidents but there are many who have done that and it ended up badly. I would like to share my own experiences. Although I have never housed 2 dragons in the same enclosure I would never do that b/c when I took out both my dragons to let them roam around on my bed they were fine for like 20 mins. Then all of a sudden one decided to try and take a bite out of the other one. Luckily I was there and quickly pushed aside the one that was attacking. B/c of this incident I'd could imagine that if they were in an enclosed space and no one to watch them it would've ended up badly even though they seemed fine being with each other.

Also there is nothing wrong with the "caresheet love" being passed around. Caresheets teach people how to care for their dragon. The goal is to ensure health and happiness while minimizing danger. Why risk the health of your dragons when there are better alternatives? If you enjoy and love your animals there is no good reason to not follow what the caresheet says.

Fair enough.... different mentalities I suppose from the herptoculture over there than to what I'm used to.

 

[jabronie]

its open mindedness over here vs close-mindedness it seems judging by your post and sig.

 

[RedInkAus]

its open mindedness over here vs close-mindedness it seems judging by your post and sig.

What???