Zeusmybeardie
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u should tell them mealworms can cause impaction and are like us eating cardboard but the facebook page looks pretty good dont forget to enter for the contest for the profile pic ends tommorow
Fight the silence!!!
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ThisIsAUsedName65714
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Zeusmybeardie":1qwewau1 said:
I asked a lady working there how often they feed the beardies and she said they leave out mealworms all day and they feed crickets every day. I told her mealworms cause impaction and she said that was just a myth and sand does that. The I said that they where on sand. She seemed irritated by my questions. she said that their sand was approved by vets. inside i rolled my eyes :roll: but i tried to be nice about it. she still seemed upset. some people....
I i'm gonna enter. were do i post the pics?
Zeusmybeardie
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ThisIsAUsedName65714":2u89sdjy said:Evergreen":2u89sdjy said:Wow, 30 signatures and really great comments tooThank you!!
Does everyone want me to keep the goal at 1,000 or raise/lower it?
I say we keep it and if we reach our goal lets raise it by 1000 each time.
Oh, you may want to change 'you' into 'your' in your signature.
Thank you
And for the record everyone on bd.org has already been a huge help. To all of those that have helped or given us newcommers adivce. There is at least one new post for a new owner looking for help everyday and no matter what they're always helped. I think that just as much as what were trying to do is amazing. I don't expect anything from eelveryone here, no one is obligated to help but like Zeus said it would be very appreciated!
ThisIsAUsedName65714
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This makes me really mad.
While some legal protections exist, these laws are not sufficiently specific to provide meaningful protection to pet shop animals. For starters, the average person probably looks to federal law for a framework mandating the fundamental care of pet store animals here in the U.S. However, that assurance is misplaced as federal protection for these animals is almost nonexistent. The U.S. Congress passed the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) in 1966 (7 USC §§ 2123-2157). Originally called the “Laboratory Animal Welfare Act,” this law has been amended several times since its passage and now addresses certain warm-blooded animals maintained by animal dealers, transporters, and exhibitors in addition to research facilities. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) administers the AWA through its Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS).
This expanded AWA initially sounds great but, on closer examination, significant exemptions and limitations in this law become apparent. The AWA mandates standards of care for certain animals with regard to their housing, handling, sanitation, nutrition, water, veterinary services, and protections from extreme weather. These animal care standards are minimal and do not adequately protect the covered animals from mistreatment, neglect, and improper handling.
Furthermore, the AWA protects limited types of animals and then only in certain situations. The AWA protects dogs, cats, non-human primates, guinea pigs, hamsters, rabbits, farm animals used in research or exhibition, and horses used in nonagricultural research. Cold-blooded animals — which are frequently housed and sold at pet stores — are not regulated by the AWA. While the AWA requires certain animal facilities to comply with licensing, inspection and animal care requirements, the following entities are not classified under the AWA as animal dealers: retail pet stores, hobby breeders, public animal shelters, private animal shelters, and boarding kennels. As a result of these numerous exemptions and limitations in coverage, exotic and wild animals are the only animals housed in retail pet facilities that are afforded protection under the AWA; accordingly, the individual states are the primary source of legal protections for most animals housed in pet stores.
While federal regulations currently are being considered that may provide some protection to certain animals sold at pet stores, it is unclear when these proposed regulations will take effect and it is difficult to predict the precise nature of the regulations themselves.
State Law Overview
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Only 27 states and the District of Columbia have enacted laws which establish some form of humane care standards for animals kept at pet shops and sold in a retail environment. Summarized below — and outlined in this chart — are each state’s laws governing the treatment and sale of animals at pet shops.
Food, Water and Sanitation:
Twenty-four states (Arizona, California (food only), Colorado, Delaware (food only), Hawaii (food only), Illinois (food only), Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Virginia) require that pet stores provide the tangible, common-sense basics of food and water, and 21 states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Maryland (birds only), Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia require proper sanitation for the animals housed in their facilities. These provisions often specify the quality of food and water provided as well as a maximum length of time between feedings or supplying fresh water, and the sanitation, storage and cleaning methods that keep housing, food and bedding hygienic and dry.
Veterinary Care:
While 17 states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia) require that pet shops provide veterinary care to sick or injured animals, only 2 of them (Kansas and Nebraska) require that each pet shop devise, in conjunction with a licensed veterinarian, a written program preventing disease, parasitic infestations, and injuries for the animals housed at the pet shop. A number of states require a certificate of health to accompany animals when they are transported across state lines for sale at a pet shop; other states require these health certificates prior to offering the animal for sale regardless of whether or not the animals were imported to the state.
Unweaned Animals:
Twenty-three states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Wisconsin) and the District of Columbia prohibit the sale of some unweaned animals. Consumer protection is a partial motive for these provisions, which are designed to prevent the sale of sick or diseased animals to the public. In some states, these measures restrict the sale of puppies and kittens under the age of eight weeks while other states prohibit the sale of rabbits or ducklings under a certain age. As a result of our sponsored efforts, California is the first state to prohibit the sale of unweaned parrots in retail venues.
Lighting and Stress:
A surprising number of state laws have evolved to the point where more abstract — but nonetheless important — quality of life provisions are required for animals in pet stores. For example, 13 states (Colorado, Delaware, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia require that lighting be sufficient to provide for cleaning and inspection of the animals for signs of illness or injury. Several of these states require the provision of diurnal lighting to reduce animal stress.
Housing:
A variety of provisions in 18 states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia establish requirements for the housing or caging of animals at pet shops. Most often, these provisions require that animals be provided with adequate space to stand up, sit down, and assume natural postural positions. Some states also require all housing to be constructed in a manner that prevents injury to the animals housed within. Maine and Minnesota require that housing be provided in a manner to minimize stress and the abnormal, repetitive, meaningless behaviors that can accompany housing in a constricted manner.
Temperature and Ventilation:
Eleven states (Colorado, Delaware, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New York, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia require that the temperature in pet shops be kept in a range which promotes the comfort and health of the animals contained within. And 14 states (California, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, and Oregon) and the District of Columbia require that facilities be ventilated to minimize noxious odors, moisture and condensation.
Euthanasia:
While the breadth and level of detail varies substantially, 8 states (Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, New Jersey, and New York) mandate the techniques by which animals can be euthanized (put to death) at pet shops. An additional 12 states (California, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Wisconsin) provide broader restrictions — restrictions on humane euthanasia methods in a variety of settings. In addition to pet shops, these laws would apply to other entities such as animal shelters.
Lemon Laws:
Sixteen states (Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia) have enacted so-called “lemon laws” — consumer protection measures solely geared to provide specific recourse to members of the public who purchase sick or diseased animals from pet shops. In states where there is no lemon law, the state attorney general’s office, the state department of consumer affairs or the Better Business Bureau may have jurisdiction to address consumer disputes with a particular pet shop. These states also require pet shops to disclose particular information to purchasers and prospective purchasers, which may include the name and contact information of the breeder, any veterinary care provided to the animal prior to sale, a guarantee of good health, the animal’s vaccination history, recommendations for spay/neuter, and/or species-specific care guidelines.
Licensing and Record-keeping:
A latent but nonetheless important requirement in 21 states (Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida (birds only), Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland (birds only), Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont) and the District of Columbia is the requirement that pet shops obtain a license from a particular state or local agency prior to engaging in the sale of animals. (Cities or counties may require a local license independently of state law.) Pet shops are required in 20 states (Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island) and the District of Columbia to record basic data, such as the dates of acquisition and sale of each animal, the animals’ identification numbers, the breeder’s name and contact information, and/or the purchaser’s name and contact information. These record-keeping requirements aid in the enforcement of that state’s pet shop laws.
Training:
Nebraska is the lone state requiring that pet shops provide training in the appropriate care of animals to their employees. This knowledge is imperative for the employees who actually provide the day-to-day essentials to the animals. It is incumbent on these employees to be able to safely and adequately care for the animals in the pet stores’ custody as well as to observe the animals for signs of illness or stress and to promptly report such concerns to the veterinarian for follow-up.
Socialization:
At this time, only one state — California — requires socialization for pet store animals. State laws should be strengthened to require socialization and enrichment to improve the quality of life and reduce stress on the animals.
Nebraska is the only state requiring that pet shops provide animal care training to their employees.
California and Maine are the only states requiring pet stores to give customers written information on an animal's housing, equipment, cleaning, feeding and environmental requirements.
Some states, such as Colorado, have specific cage size charts for animals. Other states just use undefined terms - such as "reasonable amount of space" - that are left up to inspectors to interpret.
Astoundingly, only twenty states (AZ, CO, IA, KS, LA, ME, MA, MI, MN, MO, NV, NH, NJ, NY, NC, OR, PA, RI, VT, VA) require that pet stores provide animals with food and water. (Four states (CA, DE, HI, IL) require only that food be available.) These provisions specify the quality of food and water provided as well as a maximum length of time between feedings or supplying fresh water.
Maine law mandates that pet stores feed animals at least twice a day. Malnourished animals must be fed more frequently and, once on solid food, puppies and kittens must be fed 3 times daily. clean water must be available at all times and freely accessible. Birds must have food and water available at all times.
Many pet stores sell mice and rats as 'feeders' for snakes and other reptiles. These rodents are usually the same 'fancy' breeds that people keep as pets.
In most states, feeder animals are given less legal rights than other animals - even other rodents. Laws requiring prompt veterinarian care often exclude feeders. And only Minnesota has laws that are directed towards rodents in particular.
In Minnesota, rodent cages must have a solid bottom impervious to moisture or wire that prevents leg/feet injuries. Rodents must be fed at least daily and receive sufficient clean and potable water. They must be provided with chewing materials to prevent teeth overgrowth. Pet stores must also "regularly clean rodent cages and cover the floor with clean, dry bedding which must be changed at least weekly. If the cage becomes soiled or wet to a harmful degree, the animals must be transferred to clean quarters as soon as possible.
While some legal protections exist, these laws are not sufficiently specific to provide meaningful protection to pet shop animals. For starters, the average person probably looks to federal law for a framework mandating the fundamental care of pet store animals here in the U.S. However, that assurance is misplaced as federal protection for these animals is almost nonexistent. The U.S. Congress passed the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) in 1966 (7 USC §§ 2123-2157). Originally called the “Laboratory Animal Welfare Act,” this law has been amended several times since its passage and now addresses certain warm-blooded animals maintained by animal dealers, transporters, and exhibitors in addition to research facilities. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) administers the AWA through its Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS).
This expanded AWA initially sounds great but, on closer examination, significant exemptions and limitations in this law become apparent. The AWA mandates standards of care for certain animals with regard to their housing, handling, sanitation, nutrition, water, veterinary services, and protections from extreme weather. These animal care standards are minimal and do not adequately protect the covered animals from mistreatment, neglect, and improper handling.
Furthermore, the AWA protects limited types of animals and then only in certain situations. The AWA protects dogs, cats, non-human primates, guinea pigs, hamsters, rabbits, farm animals used in research or exhibition, and horses used in nonagricultural research. Cold-blooded animals — which are frequently housed and sold at pet stores — are not regulated by the AWA. While the AWA requires certain animal facilities to comply with licensing, inspection and animal care requirements, the following entities are not classified under the AWA as animal dealers: retail pet stores, hobby breeders, public animal shelters, private animal shelters, and boarding kennels. As a result of these numerous exemptions and limitations in coverage, exotic and wild animals are the only animals housed in retail pet facilities that are afforded protection under the AWA; accordingly, the individual states are the primary source of legal protections for most animals housed in pet stores.
While federal regulations currently are being considered that may provide some protection to certain animals sold at pet stores, it is unclear when these proposed regulations will take effect and it is difficult to predict the precise nature of the regulations themselves.
State Law Overview
View Map
Only 27 states and the District of Columbia have enacted laws which establish some form of humane care standards for animals kept at pet shops and sold in a retail environment. Summarized below — and outlined in this chart — are each state’s laws governing the treatment and sale of animals at pet shops.
Food, Water and Sanitation:
Twenty-four states (Arizona, California (food only), Colorado, Delaware (food only), Hawaii (food only), Illinois (food only), Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Virginia) require that pet stores provide the tangible, common-sense basics of food and water, and 21 states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Maryland (birds only), Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia require proper sanitation for the animals housed in their facilities. These provisions often specify the quality of food and water provided as well as a maximum length of time between feedings or supplying fresh water, and the sanitation, storage and cleaning methods that keep housing, food and bedding hygienic and dry.
Veterinary Care:
While 17 states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia) require that pet shops provide veterinary care to sick or injured animals, only 2 of them (Kansas and Nebraska) require that each pet shop devise, in conjunction with a licensed veterinarian, a written program preventing disease, parasitic infestations, and injuries for the animals housed at the pet shop. A number of states require a certificate of health to accompany animals when they are transported across state lines for sale at a pet shop; other states require these health certificates prior to offering the animal for sale regardless of whether or not the animals were imported to the state.
Unweaned Animals:
Twenty-three states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Wisconsin) and the District of Columbia prohibit the sale of some unweaned animals. Consumer protection is a partial motive for these provisions, which are designed to prevent the sale of sick or diseased animals to the public. In some states, these measures restrict the sale of puppies and kittens under the age of eight weeks while other states prohibit the sale of rabbits or ducklings under a certain age. As a result of our sponsored efforts, California is the first state to prohibit the sale of unweaned parrots in retail venues.
Lighting and Stress:
A surprising number of state laws have evolved to the point where more abstract — but nonetheless important — quality of life provisions are required for animals in pet stores. For example, 13 states (Colorado, Delaware, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia require that lighting be sufficient to provide for cleaning and inspection of the animals for signs of illness or injury. Several of these states require the provision of diurnal lighting to reduce animal stress.
Housing:
A variety of provisions in 18 states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia establish requirements for the housing or caging of animals at pet shops. Most often, these provisions require that animals be provided with adequate space to stand up, sit down, and assume natural postural positions. Some states also require all housing to be constructed in a manner that prevents injury to the animals housed within. Maine and Minnesota require that housing be provided in a manner to minimize stress and the abnormal, repetitive, meaningless behaviors that can accompany housing in a constricted manner.
Temperature and Ventilation:
Eleven states (Colorado, Delaware, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New York, and Virginia) and the District of Columbia require that the temperature in pet shops be kept in a range which promotes the comfort and health of the animals contained within. And 14 states (California, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, and Oregon) and the District of Columbia require that facilities be ventilated to minimize noxious odors, moisture and condensation.
Euthanasia:
While the breadth and level of detail varies substantially, 8 states (Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, New Jersey, and New York) mandate the techniques by which animals can be euthanized (put to death) at pet shops. An additional 12 states (California, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Wisconsin) provide broader restrictions — restrictions on humane euthanasia methods in a variety of settings. In addition to pet shops, these laws would apply to other entities such as animal shelters.
Lemon Laws:
Sixteen states (Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia) have enacted so-called “lemon laws” — consumer protection measures solely geared to provide specific recourse to members of the public who purchase sick or diseased animals from pet shops. In states where there is no lemon law, the state attorney general’s office, the state department of consumer affairs or the Better Business Bureau may have jurisdiction to address consumer disputes with a particular pet shop. These states also require pet shops to disclose particular information to purchasers and prospective purchasers, which may include the name and contact information of the breeder, any veterinary care provided to the animal prior to sale, a guarantee of good health, the animal’s vaccination history, recommendations for spay/neuter, and/or species-specific care guidelines.
Licensing and Record-keeping:
A latent but nonetheless important requirement in 21 states (Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida (birds only), Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland (birds only), Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont) and the District of Columbia is the requirement that pet shops obtain a license from a particular state or local agency prior to engaging in the sale of animals. (Cities or counties may require a local license independently of state law.) Pet shops are required in 20 states (Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, and Rhode Island) and the District of Columbia to record basic data, such as the dates of acquisition and sale of each animal, the animals’ identification numbers, the breeder’s name and contact information, and/or the purchaser’s name and contact information. These record-keeping requirements aid in the enforcement of that state’s pet shop laws.
Training:
Nebraska is the lone state requiring that pet shops provide training in the appropriate care of animals to their employees. This knowledge is imperative for the employees who actually provide the day-to-day essentials to the animals. It is incumbent on these employees to be able to safely and adequately care for the animals in the pet stores’ custody as well as to observe the animals for signs of illness or stress and to promptly report such concerns to the veterinarian for follow-up.
Socialization:
At this time, only one state — California — requires socialization for pet store animals. State laws should be strengthened to require socialization and enrichment to improve the quality of life and reduce stress on the animals.
Nebraska is the only state requiring that pet shops provide animal care training to their employees.
California and Maine are the only states requiring pet stores to give customers written information on an animal's housing, equipment, cleaning, feeding and environmental requirements.
Some states, such as Colorado, have specific cage size charts for animals. Other states just use undefined terms - such as "reasonable amount of space" - that are left up to inspectors to interpret.
Astoundingly, only twenty states (AZ, CO, IA, KS, LA, ME, MA, MI, MN, MO, NV, NH, NJ, NY, NC, OR, PA, RI, VT, VA) require that pet stores provide animals with food and water. (Four states (CA, DE, HI, IL) require only that food be available.) These provisions specify the quality of food and water provided as well as a maximum length of time between feedings or supplying fresh water.
Maine law mandates that pet stores feed animals at least twice a day. Malnourished animals must be fed more frequently and, once on solid food, puppies and kittens must be fed 3 times daily. clean water must be available at all times and freely accessible. Birds must have food and water available at all times.
Many pet stores sell mice and rats as 'feeders' for snakes and other reptiles. These rodents are usually the same 'fancy' breeds that people keep as pets.
In most states, feeder animals are given less legal rights than other animals - even other rodents. Laws requiring prompt veterinarian care often exclude feeders. And only Minnesota has laws that are directed towards rodents in particular.
In Minnesota, rodent cages must have a solid bottom impervious to moisture or wire that prevents leg/feet injuries. Rodents must be fed at least daily and receive sufficient clean and potable water. They must be provided with chewing materials to prevent teeth overgrowth. Pet stores must also "regularly clean rodent cages and cover the floor with clean, dry bedding which must be changed at least weekly. If the cage becomes soiled or wet to a harmful degree, the animals must be transferred to clean quarters as soon as possible.
Zeusmybeardie
Gray-bearded Member
wow where did u find that
ThisIsAUsedName65714
Member
On the internet. I just searched 'pet shop regulations' and a website came up called http://www.petstoreabuse.com I got a little big off another site, but i don't remember what it's called.
Zeusmybeardie
Gray-bearded Member
Wow thats really dumb also there's another thing I just realized its not always their fault to for people giving improper care cause right away when they sell a pet they turn to those stupid kits like snake kit beardie kit turtle kit those cause a lot of danger and improper care to the pet as well
ThisIsAUsedName65714
Member
I'm looking up reptile rescues' Facebook so maybe we can get their support.
These are the ones i've found so far.
http://www.facebook.com/smallscalereptilerescue
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rocky-Mtn-Reptile-Rescue/122672877747764
http://www.facebook.com/ReptileRescue
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reptile-Rescue-Den/74796649228
These are the ones i've found so far.
http://www.facebook.com/smallscalereptilerescue
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rocky-Mtn-Reptile-Rescue/122672877747764
http://www.facebook.com/ReptileRescue
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reptile-Rescue-Den/74796649228
dragongirl95
Juvie Member
I'm gonna go to a petstore near me and take Pictures
ThisIsAUsedName65714
Member
dragongirl95":3614nsjb said:
Great! I'm gonna go the the petco in the bad aria of town as soon as i can to get some pictures. We need proof that they are neglecting their animals. Thank you for helping us.
ThisIsAUsedName65714-- :shock: That was incredible, thanks for posting it! I honestly didn't know 99% of that, very very interesting/depressing/shocking/informative!
dragongirl95 and ThisIsAUsedName65714-- can you see if you can get the temperatures of some of the enclosures? What I've recently noticed is that there aren't any thermometers in any of the cages at both our local pet stores. (PetCo and Pet Expo) I'm not sure if they go through with a temp gun every day though, I'll ask next time.
53 signatures as of 10:08 central time! It also finally made the "recent" petitions list so anyone browsing will see us!
Update: 57 signatures as of 10:48 central time! I changed up the description a little. Added the site that you (ThisIsAUsedName65714) got that great information from made the blog and facebook into click-able word links because I thought it looked nicer. Still really need a picture. I don't want to take a random one off google so I'll find one of my boy until Zeus's contest is over
Another update: Got a signature from the same town I live in! No idea who it is but thought that was pretty cool! We've gotten signatures from many US states and also the following countries: United States, Canada, Brazil, South Africa, Poland, Germany, Croatia, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, United Kingdon, Australia, and Sweden!
dragongirl95 and ThisIsAUsedName65714-- can you see if you can get the temperatures of some of the enclosures? What I've recently noticed is that there aren't any thermometers in any of the cages at both our local pet stores. (PetCo and Pet Expo) I'm not sure if they go through with a temp gun every day though, I'll ask next time.
53 signatures as of 10:08 central time! It also finally made the "recent" petitions list so anyone browsing will see us!
Update: 57 signatures as of 10:48 central time! I changed up the description a little. Added the site that you (ThisIsAUsedName65714) got that great information from made the blog and facebook into click-able word links because I thought it looked nicer. Still really need a picture. I don't want to take a random one off google so I'll find one of my boy until Zeus's contest is over
Another update: Got a signature from the same town I live in! No idea who it is but thought that was pretty cool! We've gotten signatures from many US states and also the following countries: United States, Canada, Brazil, South Africa, Poland, Germany, Croatia, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, United Kingdon, Australia, and Sweden!
dragongirl95
Juvie Member
I know the petco near me doest keep track of the temps in the tanks and the employees have no idea how to pick up the bearded dragons
ReptileAddiction
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ya I was at petco and nothing had appropriately sized cages. If they moved stuff around they would have been in a lot better shape!!! and the dragons were obviously a new shipment maybe having hatched 24 hours ago! They had NO heat and NO uv and calci sand and lettuce I am calling the store today about a different animals care and will mention that to
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