Cousin Confusion: Ginger & Scarlet

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Hi all.... I'd like to tell you all a story...

This past weekend, I was dragon shopping, looking for a hypo leather het trans female. I found this beautiful girl from Breeder's Circle:
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She was exactly what we were looking for. My wife and I spoke to the breeder and decided we would take the 5-hour drive down to Miami on Sunday, just to pick up this little girl, and come back the same night. On the way down, we decided on the name Ginger.

The breeder himself was busy, I believe he was at the Repticon show in Tampa, but he was going to have one of his employees meet us and give us the dragon. When we got her, she was a bit skittish, and very scared of us. My wife took her out of her container and tried to give her some cuddles and positive reinforcement on the way back home. It took a little bit, but she absolutely bonded with my wife. She seemed to trust her and gave her cuddles, and pretty much laid on her neck the entire time until it was time to go to sleep. When we got home, my wife laid with her a bit in our spare bedroom and passed out with Ginger on her neck. They slept like that all night long.

In the morning, I took her out and checked her out. But now that we were in the light and were able to compare pics, we realized we had come home with the wrong dragon. :( It turns out we had actually come home with this girl:

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My wife was devastated. She could not imagine having to give back her girl who has slept with her all night. We had already named her and promised her we would take care of her. It was pretty much out of the question to give her back. We looked her up on the breeder's website, but unlike the one we had actually picked out, she was not 100% het for trans. For breeding purposes, she meant nothing to us and we paid a pretty high premium for a very specific dragon. Not to mention, 10+ hours in the car + gas and tolls. We are pretty much broke after buying this dragon plus her entire setup.

So, do we just have to realize that we now have a business and we have to treat these dragons like profit and get the one we originally asked for? Or do we let our hearts and love of dragons get in the way of business and keep the wrong dragon? We promised ourselves, that if we started a breeding business, that we would not treat dragons like profits and they would all be our special spoiled babies. Does that apply in this case? So many questions and decisions. To say that yesterday was a stressful day is an understatement.

I waited all day for a response from the breeder. I heard from him late in the afternoon. It was an honest mistake that was made. These girls are very similar except for the non-visible het. Well, we talked it out, and the guy is a very responsible business owner and gave us a couple of options to choose from. One option was a great deal to keep both of them, which is what we wished we could do, but just didn't have the money. Luckily, he was willing to ship the right girl before we are able to pay him, which is really nice of him.

So.... we're going to get to keep both girls. Of course, now we had named the wrong girl Ginger, and we can't take that back anymore, so the new girl, the original one we had picked out... so the new girl is now Scarlet. They are cousins, as their mothers were both sisters, but they have different fathers. We've got quite the mixup here, but we'll get it right. Until Friday, both girls will have to share an enclosure, but we are splitting them as soon as I get paid. We have taken a HUGE financial hit here as both of these dragons were originally priced at $350 each. We may spend a day without eating, but we have two beautiful girls that we are already in love with. Scarlet should be getting shipped today and we should have her tomorrow. Ginger is already in our possession as is eating great. She really loves and trusts my wife, but she is terrified of me. But I am working on her. She has already been introduced to Chief and they were already giving eachother the OK for breeding, so when the time comes, Ginger will be another girlfriend for Chief. Scarlet is meant for a future male.

So that is the story of how I now have 4 dragons in my house. :shock:
 

Kalyn876

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Thank you Soo much for the update! I just cannot believe the cousins colors!! Soo vivid especially ginger in the bath. You guys are doing great things for your 6 beardies they all look so healthy! (yes even papa smurf doesn't look too bad for having suffered severe MBD. Oh and welcome to the boards Shannon!

Kalyn
 

ShannyBeard

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Kalyn876":2quv3occ said:
Thank you Soo much for the update! I just cannot believe the cousins colors!! Soo vivid especially ginger in the bath. You guys are doing great things for your 6 beardies they all look so healthy! (yes even papa smurf doesn't look too bad for having suffered severe MBD. Oh and welcome to the boards Shannon!

Kalyn

Thanks, Kalyn :D This forum has played a major part in our kids' lives. And I'm in love with the orange colors. They just get brighter with every shed! We were looking at my Smurf-man today and wondering what color he is supposed to be! Most of his spikes are white and he has a faint orange-yellow around his eyes. We'll see what happens with him! :wink:
 

reptilegyrl

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congrats on your beautiful family... and yay for girly slumber parties!! those pics are soooo cute! I cant believe Scarlets pattern on her back...but all three girls are gorgeous! wait... so u guys have 6 beardies now is it? :mrgreen: U r adding to your family too fast for me t keep up these days! lol
 

ShannyBeard

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reptilegyrl":2btj0bix said:
congrats on your beautiful family... and yay for girly slumber parties!! those pics are soooo cute! I cant believe Scarlets pattern on her back...but all three girls are gorgeous! wait... so u guys have 6 beardies now is it? :mrgreen: U r adding to your family too fast for me t keep up these days! lol

YESSS we were only going to have 5 (only...) but I took in that rescue the same day we got the 5th beardie, Beauty. So we got #5 and #6 on the same day. We have vacation coming up soon and we have had to re-think some of what we wanted to do while we are gone because we just spent part of our vacation money. OOPS. :?

Thanks for the kind words about our dragons. They are the neatest little creatures. I never in a million years would believe that I would call myself 'Mommy' to a reptile, but now I call myself 'Mommy' to 9....OMG LOL.
 

ShannyBeard

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Since they came from the same breeder and their mothers are sisters, I don't see the harm in having them out together....except they have had a history of disliking each other. The first time I had them out in their room at the same time, Scarlet ran over to Ginger and tried to nip her in the shoulder. :shock: To be honest, I don't have all the time in the world, especially with Papa Smurf needing so much care, so I am trying to get them to just suck it up and behave. :lol:

I brought them out together and they were looking at each other like, "Get off my Mommy!"...."No, you get off my Mommy!" ....."Noooo, you get off...!" But they never actually went for each other.

Sooo....I decided to bathe them together....
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Neither of them likes their bath time, but they seemed to bond a little sharing their misery. :lol: They even dried off in the same towel together and I carried them out on my shirt next to each other. Progress is a good thing! 8)

Mom, we're going to Disney World! (Ginger)
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Mom, can we play Atari? I'm gonna pick a good game! (Scarlet)
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Mom, look at my muscles! I've been working out! (Ginger)
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:lol: Beardies are always getting into something...
 

MissT

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I don't see any harm in having them out together :) maybe when Maya is bigger, she willbe able to join in the fun! I know if I had 2 girls, I would be trying to get themout together as it would mean they got more time to explore...
They are such gorgeous girls!! I love seeing pics of them and their adventures!
 

Kalyn876

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I absolutely adore these two, they are everything I'm always looking for in my dream dragon. Congrats on a large and wonderful family.

Kalyn
 

Pixall

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lookin goooooood. :) I haven't checked in on these girls in a while. They are looking soooo happy!
 

ShannyBeard

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Kalyn876":1xvwecrg said:
I absolutely adore these two, they are everything I'm always looking for in my dream dragon. Congrats on a large and wonderful family.

Kalyn

Awwww yeah we got really lucky with these two. I swear Ginger gets more bright orange every day. She is a Mommy's girl and loves to be held and talked to sweetly. She just looks at me like she is the only beardie in the house and she soaks up the love. Scarlet is calmer and more well-behaved, and doesn't seem to need the same reassurance from Mommy, but she is still a sweetheart.

Today they ran around together even closer than normal and seemed to recognize that they could be friends Ginger even 'tasted' Scarlet and Scarlet didn't take it as a threat. First time they related this well. Thank goodness. I think the bath together helped. 8)


Pixall":1xvwecrg said:
lookin goooooood. :) I haven't checked in on these girls in a while. They are looking soooo happy!

They really do seem happy! They just go with the flow and enjoy having their pictures taken and cuddles. I think beardies in general are happy creatures. Even our little handicapped guy is all smiles.

I love bearded dragons. :love5:
 

ShannyBeard

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I promise not to poop on the fancy pillow, Mom (Ginger)
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Mom, I don't know if this is the proper basking temperature... (Scarlet)
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Kalyn876

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Love the pics, you can definitely see their individual personalities when you look at their faces.
Amazing girls! :D do you ever plan on breeding either of them?

Kalyn
 

ShannyBeard

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Kalyn876":3ssfe2c2 said:
Love the pics, you can definitely see their individual personalities when you look at their faces.
Amazing girls! :D do you ever plan on breeding either of them?

Kalyn

They are soooo different, yes! You can see the insecurity on Ginger's face and the prim and proper looks that Scarlet gives. :lol: We plan to breed them both, yes. I think they both will make pretty babies. They are so young right now so that would be a long-term goal, maybe Spring 2013. Well see how they do and if they remain healthy, happy and grow up to be big girls. :D

I really love them. <3 I'm glad they are finally getting along with each other and able to hang out with me together. I still think Ginger is a Mama's baby and she gets really jealous if anyone else gets attention from me. The look on her face is almost silent outrage. :lol: :lol: :roll:
 

Kalyn876

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Well luckily I'll prbably have to wait until spring 2013 to buy another baby anyway :D A Ginger or Scarlet baby is right on the top of my list! I don't think I'll ever get over the colors these two have.

Kalyn
 

ShannyBeard

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Kalyn876":1k1756qj said:
Well luckily I'll prbably have to wait until spring 2013 to buy another baby anyway :D A Ginger or Scarlet baby is right on the top of my list! I don't think I'll ever get over the colors these two have.

Kalyn

Awww, WOW I just read this post - a little late - :oops: - that's so nice of you! I love orange beardies, too. I can't imagine these girls growing up and having babies...kinda scares me! :shock: I hope they will still be my little sweeties when they grow up! I would be honored if you chose one of their babies.

We had some living room sleepy-time tonight as a reward for being sweet. I always want to cuddle with them, and they always want to do their own thing. Oh well. :roll:

Mom will never find me - I'm playing Hide and go Sleep (Scarlet)
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Mom, bring me my blankie please! (Ginger)
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:love5:
 
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