traildrifterphalanx":203opreh said:I haven't personally used that breeder, but from general reviews I'm seeing online nothing has stood out as bad. Seems more people recommend Atomic.
An inch of growth in 2 months isn't terrible, but she's still small for her age. She may have known she was not going to sell well so tried to push her off
EllenD":oiqdyhtw said:traildrifterphalanx":oiqdyhtw said:I haven't personally used that breeder, but from general reviews I'm seeing online nothing has stood out as bad. Seems more people recommend Atomic.
An inch of growth in 2 months isn't terrible, but she's still small for her age. She may have known she was not going to sell well so tried to push her off
That was exactly what I was trying to say without saying it. I've never heard anything bad about them either, but then again I never looked up reviews. I don't think he told us her length at 5 months when Atomic shipped her, but there's no way that they didn't realize something was wrong with her if she weighed only 50 grams at 5 months old, her total length couldn't have been even close to average to be at that weight, unless she was emaciated looking. Either way something is extremely suspect here....It's just disappointing when any breeder knowingly does this to someone who is excited about getting a new family pet, let alone a large, respected breeder.
traildrifterphalanx":blhfia0s said:Your vet visit sounds like when I had my two seen by an exotics vet a few months back. She administered doses of panacur to them both with no fecal and sent me home with more. She also recommended I use sphagnum moss as a substrate and switch to a mercury vapor bulb instead of my arcadia uvb bulbs.
Needless to say I switched vets.
Perhaps underweight is the wrong phrasing. I would consider her more undersized as she is a pretty good weight for her size of 10.5", but for 6 months old she's about the size of a 3 month old. There's nothing wrong with being a little dragonas long as she is healthy, that's what matters. Maybe she'll even surprise us all by growing to a giant size.
What bothers me though is her being from a reputable breeder. Just something wrong about pawning off an undersized dragon as though it's normal. Seems dishonest
AHBD":1e4oxc8r said:Have you thought about another vet if you can find one ? Or ordering the Ponazuril from beautifudragons ?
And it's true that Albon is to be kept at room temp.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiLvsC-g7nVAhVG9IMKHciwCy8QFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.drugs.com%2Fvet%2Falbon-oral-suspension-5.html&usg=AFQjCNEsAsxBEhIAOt_UGJBoqbnXL2t8_w
so it is doing nothing to kill off the coccidiosis parasitic infection what so ever. You need another drug to deal with that , and a reptile will have an entirely different response to Albon which is meant for cats and dogs.ALBON (sulfadimethoxine) is effective for treating a wide range of bacterial infections commonly encountered in dogs and cats. It is indicated for use in dogs and cats with respiratory, genitourinary tract and soft-tissue infections. It is also indicated for treating dogs with bacterial enteritis associated with coccidiosis.
No mention of deactivation happening if chilled.STORAGE: Store at controlled room temperature 15°–30°C (59°–86°F).
, do you have the knowledge and skill to identify the strain of coccidiosis your dragon is infected by ?There are six species of Eimeria (coccidiosis) which are generally considered to be significant : E. tenella, E. brunetti, E. necatrix, E. maxima, E. mitis and E. acervulina. Each of these species prefers to live in and damage a specific region of the gut. For the purposes of treatment and prevention of coccidiosis it is unimportant to ascertain which species is causing disease
1.Kill the coccidiosis to stop further gut damage, this requires an anticoccidial medication. Which one are you using ?
There are two kinds of drugs:
coccidiostats which slow the development of the coccidiosis. This allows the animal to develop immunity to coccidiosis without being overwhelmed. - you are well past this point.
second kind are coccidiocides, one such medication would be Toltrazuril 2.5% w/v (Baycox) which will kill the coccidiosis. - your dragon needs this.
2.control the bacterial disruption to the gut, this is treated by antibiotic therapy. (this is presumeably the job of Albon or other antibiotics (as mentioned by Ellen).)
3.TLC, providing a warm dry environment and following any medication advice. It is advisable at this stage to follow on with provision of multivitamins and a probiotic to restore gut flora with a product such as Beryl’s Friendly Bacteria.
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