What morph type will hatch???

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GoBigGuy

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Hi All,

I have been trying to figure out what morph type will hatch from the eggs I have in the incubator but the more I read online the more I am confused.

Here are what the parents are and a couple of photos of them.

Male (Loki) - Red Translucent (Het Hypo) X Beasley Red Leatherback (Double Het)
Female (Lily) - Blood Translucent Het Hypo

What will the babies be?

Loki
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Lily
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Tigresssnow

Hatchling Member
What do you mean by double het? Translucent and hypo or two hypo parents?
To give you an idea until I know the full genes my female (leatherback translucent hypo to a dunner hypo het transleuscent) laid a clutch of 16 and I got:
5 leather backs, 6 dunners, and 5 normals. I am still a bit of a newbie to genetics, I am unsure how to tell hypo in babies as they don't have black eyes but all of their nails are white. Here's a detailed list of what came out-
Transleuscent leatherback possible hypo
Transleuscent leatherback possibly hypo
Transleuscent leatherback possible hypo
Leatherback possible hypo het trans
Leatherback possible hypo het trans
Transleuscent dunner possible hypo
Transleuscent dunner possible hypo(possible leatherback)
Transleuscent dunner possible hypo(possible leatherback)
Dunner possible hypo possible leatherback het trans
Dunner possible hypo het transleuscent
Dunner possible hypo het transleuscent
Transleuscent possibly hypo het transleuscent
Transleuscent possible hypo het transleuscent
Transleuscent possible hypo het transleuscent
Poss hypo het trans
And finally
Poss hypo het trans
Both parents were rich oranges and all the babies are already displaying strong orange markings. With them it's truly a roll of the dice with lots of genes in the mix and each baby is exciting. If you go to "Early surprise-need help" there are photos of all except two of my little month old hatchlings so you can see for yourself :)
 

GoBigGuy

Hatchling Member
Original Poster
Thank you for the response and the information.

Not sure what double het is, that's what I was told about Loki from Dachiu Dragons where I got him from.


Tigresssnow":22wilgee said:
What do you mean by double het? Translucent and hypo or two hypo parents?
To give you an idea until I know the full genes my female (leatherback translucent hypo to a dunner hypo het transleuscent) laid a clutch of 16 and I got:
5 leather backs, 6 dunners, and 5 normals. I am still a bit of a newbie to genetics, I am unsure how to tell hypo in babies as they don't have black eyes but all of their nails are white. Here's a detailed list of what came out-
Transleuscent leatherback possible hypo
Transleuscent leatherback possibly hypo
Transleuscent leatherback possible hypo
Leatherback possible hypo het trans
Leatherback possible hypo het trans
Transleuscent dunner possible hypo
Transleuscent dunner possible hypo(possible leatherback)
Transleuscent dunner possible hypo(possible leatherback)
Dunner possible hypo possible leatherback het trans
Dunner possible hypo het transleuscent
Dunner possible hypo het transleuscent
Transleuscent possibly hypo het transleuscent
Transleuscent possible hypo het transleuscent
Transleuscent possible hypo het transleuscent
Poss hypo het trans
And finally
Poss hypo het trans
Both parents were rich oranges and all the babies are already displaying strong orange markings. With them it's truly a roll of the dice with lots of genes in the mix and each baby is exciting. If you go to "Early surprise-need help" there are photos of all except two of my little month old hatchlings so you can see for yourself :)
 

Sylphie

Member
Hmm, as both hypo and trans are recessive genes it's easy to predict the babies! I'm not sure for that double gene so I won't mention it...

Here is what you'll get:

All babies will be het. leatherback

You'll get red/blood hypo transculents,
hypo het. trans,
trans het. hypo,
hmm, probably some normal trans too, so as you can't tell which are having the gene all trans will be 50% chances for het. hypo

and probably some normals with het for both hypo and trans or only for one of it.

Hope it helped! As for that double het from what I know it just means that your dragon carries two genes (in this case leatherback and red, although it's not really true, as colors in dragons aren't really moprhs, just a line-breed traits... only zero's and witblit's are really genetical morphs, all the rest like citrus, reds, oranges are just a traits that are not inheritable)

Edit: Oh, sorry, only now I noticed something weird in your male description... what does "X Beasley" stands for? As I didn't ever heard of something like that and can't google it either, haha!
 

Tigresssnow

Hatchling Member
I just wanna say there is no such thing as het leatherback, there is a 25% chance to get a leatherback when paired with a normal scales dragon
 

Sylphie

Member
Oh, I didn't know that. I mean every single thing I read about leathebracks stated that it's a recessive gene... but I'm not a pro, so I'm sorry if I was wrong! :)
 

AHBD

BD.org Sicko
The babies will be a mix of what the parents are. You have the possibility of coming out with trans. hypo leathers, leather hypo's, trans, hypos. Being a double het. means they can carry the genes of a morph [ hypo, trans. ] without it being visually apparent. Leatherbacks are not a het., they are always visual . Be aware that it's not recommended to breed trans. to trans. You're better off with a trans. to a het. trans., or breeding 2 het. trans. dragons.

Rich Beasley was a breeder many years ago who produced high color reds, so some breeders [ Dachiu ] label the dragons from his line as " Beasley red ' Just like they may have " Tamara " red, that is just a dragon from Rainbow b.d.'s, the owner's name is Tamara. A " Rick red" is from a breeder's line also, Rick Millspaugh.
 

Tigresssnow

Hatchling Member
Sylphie (sorry if I spelt it wrong) I believe they are recessive but im not sure how it works, I just know I was told it isn't a heterozygous trait as it is a deformity I believe. Genetics are quite confusing, but bearded dragons are a lot better then the leopard geckos I work with! Lol. I'd be interested in testing that in the future though it'd be interesting to learn the results :)
 
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