urgent help needed!!!! beardie looks like its going insane!!

[gulfbrzdawn]

Well your temps sound good. I just want to be sure that Littlefoot isn't overheating. Some of the symptoms you mentioned are also signs of dehydration. That's why I was asking if you had got the thermometer we had talked about.

I know you are worried about your little guy right now. They do make us worry. I'm sorry!

I pm'd Tracie and she is always great about checking on threads when asked. She will be able to advise you what to do until you can get Littlefoot to the vet.

Hang in there David!

 

[taylor123221]

thanks dawn had it been day time here i would be on the phone to vet but its half 1 in the morning and really must go to sleep that worried about the little one a cant!!!

 

[taylor123221]

another thing av noticed is that his eyes arent right either they normal wide open and they are really different too how they usual are its 1:30 am here and hes up????? no lights are on either hes wondering about all over hes always been a bit backward as far as beardies go they meant to sleep on a night and awake during day hes the total opposite?????????

 

[diamc]

David, when you took the temp with the digital with probe, did you place the probe so that it was actually resting on (touching) the basking spot, then wait about 45 min for the temp to stop rising before you got the final readings? How close is he to the UVB when in his basking spot? Are you using a bright white basking bulb alongside the UVB?

 

[taylor123221]

yes i read the instructions and looked exactly what to do on here and what you said there is what i have been doing every other day so i no they right because i have read on here what it can do if they wrong dont understand how he has been almost lifeless today and now is very active at this time of night?????? still doing that insane behaviour i told you about tho

 

[diamc]

Ok, the Repti-Sun 10.0 is a long strip fluorescent, right? How far away is the UVB from him? Are you using any lighting at night?

 

[Drache613]

Hello David,

Does he have any fat reserves on top of his head? Are his pupils still dilated?
The symptoms do fit dehydration but could also be an ear infection or hypocalemia as well. He is a bit young though for the calcium issues so I would think it would be more likely to be an ear infection or maybe a respiratory infection.
Usually misting is ok, but most do not like to be misted but would rather just have a bath.
Are you able to afford going to the vet? Did you find a vet to go to?
Are they housed together then?

Tracie

 

[taylor123221]

the gap is about 6-8 inches were the uvb is and no light on a night. Drache613 i wouldnt no what to look for if he had fat reserves on his head but he has went really thin AGAIN!! after just getting him better like because i took him to a specialist for some advice and he said he was dehyrated then he perked up then has this insane behaviour now and been like this for 3 days or so. hypocalemia what is this???? i wont be able to ring vet till tomorrow and may not find one i can afford hoping i can but its nearly 2 am in morning here in the uk and no they not housed together they were up until not long ago because i managed to a seperate viv for him little smaller than fat guts but has the same space as he does because i have fatguts viv sectioned off half way and its 4 foot

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

Ok, yes that is good they are housed separately.
Hypocalcemia is low calcium issues but I don't think that is the problem, but cannot totally rule it out.
The fat pads are basically the pads on top of the head right above the eyes that either stick up or are sunken down. If they are really sunken in then he is still dehydrated & needs oral fluids.
What did you do that he began to improve, what did the specialist do for him? Did you give extra oral fluids & foods?
Exactly what are the temperatures at for overnight? Do you use any lighting or heating for him during the night? Is something disturbing him during the night that is interrupting his sleep?

Tracie

 

[gulfbrzdawn]

Hi David...... were you able to get Littlefoot to a vet yet?
Please let us know if you took him in and how he is doing.
You and Littlefoot are in my thoughts!

 

[cheekybeardie]

David, please tell me what city your in, in the UK and I will try my best to help.

Kirstin

 

[taylor123221]

he is 100% better today had 2 locusts covered in calcium balancer and vitiam supplement and hasnt been twirling about as much still has been a little bit. i went to handle him and it got a lot worse so just left him be havent sprayed or bathed as this causes the symptoms i explained to worsen. i rang and rang at least 20 vets local and none of them apart from 3 did reptiles of any sort and they all charged 100 quid and like i said i really cant afford that just going to have to ride it out with littlefoot as best i can if each day he gets better as he has today i will be happy hasnt been no where near as bad as yesterday i honestly thought he would be dead this morning. he is still basking with his head almost vertical though still doesnt look great but better. and tracie it wasnt a vet i visited with littlefoot lastime he was bad just a specialist and runs a shop that sells reptiles and hes done it for years and he said it was de-hydrated last time and to spray them twice daily and bath in container not the bath every other and that perked him back up but this is way different. he has fat pads on top of his eyes and they arent sunken in. and there is no light on a night and defiantely nothing to disturb him either i have a digital probe thermometer and its warm enough on a night in my house to have no heat on its 78 f which i read is about right and if it drops i have a thermostat that kicks the heat on if it goes below that

 

[cheekybeardie]

David, I still think Littlefoot needs a vet. Please get in touch

 

[xcourtney3]

My beardie had similar problems a few months ago. I took him to the vet and she said he had neurological problems. She prescribed him liquid calcium. After getting him a new UVB bulb and giving him the calcium everyday all the problems (seizures, jerking, running in circles, holding head really low, keeping eyes closed, weird breathing) went away.

 

[Drache613]

Hello David,

How is your boy doing this evening? Has he improved any today?
That is good his pads on top of his head are not sunken in. Are you going to try to get him in to see a vet if possible?
Is he older or younger than your other one is? It could be a inner ear imbalance, or metabolic bone problems. What kind of vitamins are you giving him? It could also be a vitamin deficiency such as the B vitamins that can cause issues such as yours is having.

Tracie