Two types of roaches together in same bin?

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kimmie

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I have Dubias and Madagascars together in the same bin. Quite honestly I'm not even sure what's what now - they are all looking quite the same, even the small ones :lol: I have a LOT of adults but not sure who's who except for the male dubias thanks to their wings!

1. Is it ok to keep these two species together w/o any problems (are either going to eat each other is my concern)?

2. How do you tell the Madagascars apart from the female dubias (since the females are wingless)?

I might end up having to get rid of the whole shooting match if Angie doesn't show interest soon. So far she'd rather have supers and quite honestly, I've YET to feel comfortable with the roaches - they make my skin crawl. :lol: I'm going to try again tomorrow to feed Angie a roach (small one) to see if she's interested! This recent try she just looked at it as it walked/scurried by her. She's eating normally again - THANK GOD for that but no interest in roaches!
 

StlGreaser

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In my opinion it is never advisable to keep more than one species of feeder in one container. They will compete for food and inn some cases on species will hunt and eat the new born of the other. This can really decrease the production of both species. If you do not have the room to keep both species separate I would suggest picking the one you like the best (or your herps like the best) and stick to just that one.
 

Toyguy

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It's amazing that Angie won't go for them. I feed them to Dash once a week or so since the colony is still getting ramped up and he goes bonkers over the things. I can actually hear him slapping his jaws shut as he chomps them, he's so energetic about it.

I also find it interesting that the woman who wouldn't have any roaches in the house now has 2 species :D
 

techdave

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When I first started my dubia colony about a year ago, I got some red racer babies, thinking they were dubias, and now, I can't seem to get rid of them at all. They seem ok in there together, I can't really tell a difference.
 

kimmie

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Toyguy":ci3n48id said:
It's amazing that Angie won't go for them. I feed them to Dash once a week or so since the colony is still getting ramped up and he goes bonkers over the things. I can actually hear him slapping his jaws shut as he chomps them, he's so energetic about it.

I also find it interesting that the woman who wouldn't have any roaches in the house now has 2 species :D

:lol: Yeah yeah! ROFLMAO I should have remembered an old song I loved called "Never Say Never"

I'll try again with Angie. She could have been full and just wasn't hungry at all. Today is another day and thus that other try!
 

Twobeardieguy

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Kimmie maybe I can help you out a bit. First yes you need to keep them separate. They have about the same diet however the hissers require more protein to survive thus will probably eat the dubias. Hissers are also more aggressive towards other roaches. Also the hissers require higher humidity levels. Here are some pictures that may help you out.

First is a picture of the hisser on the left and the dubia on the right, their colors are different. You will also notice on the hissers back they have black dots on their back shell and the dubias usually have brownish dots or stripes. Also the female dubias have short wing stubs.
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Second picture shows different colors but again you can see the difference.
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Third picture I am showing you is how you can tell the difference in the hisser sex, the "horns" or bumps on the pronotum of the male are enlarged and almost look like their eyes while the female`s pronotun is almost flat.
Male,
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Female,
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Hope this helps..... :D
 

kimmie

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Twobeardieguy":1mqn08pr said:
Kimmie maybe I can help you out a bit. First yes you need to keep them separate. They have about the same diet however the hissers require more protein to survive thus will probably eat the dubias. Hissers are also more aggressive towards other roaches. Also the hissers require higher humidity levels. Here are some pictures that may help you out.

First is a picture of the hisser on the left and the dubia on the right, their colors are different. You will also notice on the hissers back they have black dots on their back shell and the dubias usually have brownish dots or stripes. Also the female dubias have short wing stubs.
IMG_3232.jpg


Second picture shows different colors but again you can see the difference.
IMG_3233.jpg


Third picture I am showing you is how you can tell the difference in the hisser sex, the "horns" or bumps on the pronotum of the male are enlarged and almost look like their eyes while the female`s pronotun is almost flat.
Male,
IMG_3230.jpg

Female,
IMG_3231.jpg

IMG_3227.jpg


Hope this helps..... :D

OHHHH thanks Lance! HMMM seperating them will be ...FUN! :puke: I STILL can NOT stand them - and won't EVEN touch them! Thank GOD for my daughter though - she LOVES to do that! Silly girl! :lol: And yet she's deathly afraid of spiders and I'm not - how funny is that!

So far Angie STILL shows NO INTEREST in them at all. So it looks as though I'll be selling the colonies. I'm NOT sure how many of each I have but there are quite a few babies as well and a female with an egg sack (saw her yesterday).

If anyone is in a 2 hr driving distance from the Eastern Shore - let me know as I'll drive that distance to meet someone to hand them over - CHEAP!
 

kimmie

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ROFLMAO I have to tell you this - my daughter was HIGHLY upset that I am letting go of the hissers! She wants to keep them! :lol: I don't think so!
 

kimmie

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They are going to Lance! (twobeardieguy) I'm giving him the honors of seperating them too - I would but I'm still not sure who's who. I know some of the Madagascars and the male Dubias ...but that's it!
 

kimmie

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HOLY COW! I boxed those babies up this morning to mail off. I didn't realize just how many I had until we started knocking them off the egg crates! :puke: I had to get my daughter to help or do it as I will NOT touch them!

I had a Priority Shoe box size box for the critters and then put that inside another box with newspaper to help keep warm (no hand warmers around since my hubby and son used them).

7 lbs is what the box weighed (well 6.12 oz). HOLY COW!
 
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