Stear me in the right direction

Status
Not open for further replies.

fresnowitte

BD.org Sicko
I bought the thousand just over a year ago and let them breed like they do so well. I now have thousands, thousands, and thousands of them...I truely will never run out of feeders. They breed like crazy 20 to 30 babies per egg sack about every 15 to 30 days...times that times all the adult females in the enclosure. :shock: I have 2 seperate enclosure for them as no way I could keep them all in one anymore. But you know at that price you could just use them as feeders and not breed them. But if you wanted to their care is just the same as for any of the other roaches only these guys lay eggs don't give live birth like dubias...I personally don't like dubias because 1) They are hella expensive :shock: 2) they get way to big for me. (((Shivers!!!)))

You can PM me if you have any questions I don't want to hijack BigMac's thread. :wink:
 
fresnowitte":53712 said:
..I think gold fish when someone says starter pet.

haha funny thing about that, people do that all the time and then find out that gold fish get BIG and need filters and expensive food and alot of cleaning.
just a funny thing about an old lore, that the easiest pet to keep is a gold fish. I'd go Betta! lmao :laughhard:
 

BigMaC

Member
Original Poster
LOLZ and yea, I think I am going to get him around Christmas time, I am going to put him in a 75 gallon tank just cut off part of the tank. And I am interest please do hijack it!
 

spurlee01

BD.org Addict
Okay, if you want it hijacked.... Here is what Barbara sent me. I really hope she doesn't mind me sharing this, but I don't think she will.

fresnowitte":1c011 said:
I've tried raising several kinds of feeders. Roaches without a doubt are the easiest feeders to raise. With as many beardies as I have I needed a feeder that wasn't expensive to start my colony an ones that reproduced quickly. I'm sorry but 80 cents
a peice for dubias which was the price I'd found them for at that time was way out
of range for me...as I also needed something I could feed my beardies from as well.
So out of the 1k I bought I also fed out of but roaches were not the only feeder I
use so it didn't deplete them. By the time everyone started brumating and not
eating I still had enough for them to reproduce so I'd have plenty when my beardies woke up. I actually produced way more than I needed so I also supply some of my friends with them and have sold a few thousand as well.

I live in California so it's never really really cold warmer than many states.
The heat pad that I use is one of those under the tank kind...sense I had spares
laying around from before I learned not to use them. I only turn mine on during
the coldest months. During the Summer I don't have it on. I've also known people
to use the heat pads that we as humans would use on the lowest setting. With the temperature you can control how fast your roaches breed. The cooler temps cause them to slow down on reproduction. I last year actually had so many while my
beardies were brumating that I had to lower my temps to slow them down some. Normally they breed well at temps of about 85* lowering it dials down reproduction
an I really don't think you can actually kill them with the cold unless they're super
cold like froze. Now they do need humidity but if you place the water crystal daily
that is enough to create the humidity you want...if you notice that the wings
(which they don't fly)on the males don't look right then the humidity is not quite
high enough then I suggest placing the water crystals over the heat pad.

I give mine water crystals and shredded leftover veggies from beardie salads.
Like the ends of the squash...carrots...not always everday on the veggies though.
I also feed mine a high protein diet. The mixture of chow often varies...but I try
to choose the grains cereals and other items with high protein content. If you have
a supermarket that has a bulk food section you can get the items for your chow
much cheaper. I shop at WinCo.

..here are a few of the items I put in the chow.

Dry cat and dog food
Soy protein powder
Scottish oats (higher in protein than regular oats)
Raw multi grain hot cereals

The water crystals are cheapest online though I've yet to purchase any online.
I bought a jar at Orchard Supply Hardware in the garden department for like
$12 over a year ago an I still have a 1/2 of a jar. Now keep in mind I use these
crystals for my supers as well an I did send some to Jscott (Jason) so they last a
long time it takes very little to make up a jug.

Now substrate I use both the egg crates which I just collect from the eggs I
purchase for the family and paper towel rolls. The paper towel rolls work great
for picking them up as you already know with crickets. I'd imagine that you
could just use the paper towel rolls if you make sure to use lots of them as they
do need lots of hidding spaces.

I house mine in a 30gal tall tank wrap in paper for darkness and with a tight
fitting screen. That works good for me. Whatever you go with using whether
tank or plastic tubs just make sure that...
if plastic tub that it is clean and free of scratches or the nymphs could possibly
climb by grabbing the scratched areas...also if you use a tank like I did make
sure that it isn't one with alot of silicone at the corners.

Here are a few pic's to end this PM with as I have babbed long enough already.

NOTE: These are old pic's that I already had uploaded to photo bucket I have
more egg crates now and many more roaches but they should give you the idea.

Roach enclosure #1
100_3803.jpg

Dirty enclosure just before cleaning
100_3804.jpg


Roach enclosure #2
100_3808.jpg

Clean enclosure after cleaning
100_3814.jpg


More recent pic's of inside the enclosures just before seperating and cleaning
100_6740.jpg


100_6748.jpg


100_6744.jpg


Collecting roaches to feed beardies
100_7243.jpg


100_7244.jpg

Basically to put it short all you need to do is provide a dark, warm environment with some humidity which you'll create with the water crystals you give them for moisture, high protein diet, and hidding places they will do the rest. :wink:

Okay that was my long post of the day. :lol:


I've had my roaches for a couple of weeks now and do like them, just be aware they are very fast little things. They are actually cheaper than crickets, which I couldn't believe! I bought 4000 and my darling has already made quite a dent in them.

Sara
 

spurlee01

BD.org Addict
fresnowitte":dfb82 said:
I don't mind Sara. :wink:
I'm glad to hear Lilly is enjoying them. :D

Yup, she would only eat 25 crix for me today, but downed 75 roaches when I brought them out.
 

fresnowitte

BD.org Sicko
Good girl Lilly! :mrgreen:
Mine love them too.

I've been trying to sort out the smaller ones for babies they go absolutely banana's over them too.
I must admit my least favor thing about having turks(roaches) is the sorting and the cleaning the enclosures. (((Shivers!))) You'd think after a year an a half or so I'd be okay with handling them. :lol:
(Their quick movements can be startling. :shock: ) :lol:
Yet on the other hand as inexpensive as they are I could just order a few thousand or 10 :lol: for babies to eat off of instead of sorting. :roll:
 

spurlee01

BD.org Addict
The special right now is 5k extra smalls for $50 including shipping. You could feed a heck of a lotta babies for $100.
 

BigMaC

Member
Original Poster
o_O I could do that!!! And my hermit crabs could eat some of them, if I get leos I bet they could eat some of that, and russian tortises eat roaches if I remember correctly . . . I see a lot of eaters in the making :D Now to get mom to okay roaches . . . :lol: She HATES BUGS :puke: I like em' though :roll: I have an update!

Because of my research :research: I am gonna do a lot of things different, I am so glad I am putting off beardies until christmas :banghead: I couldn't have been more wrong about them!

UPDATE
I am going to get a

75gallon tank
Rock Tile as substrate (with some sand to dig in and fill in as grout)
3 bowls (one for fresh water, one for crickets/roaches(to dump them in at least :lol: ) one for veggies (though I was told they dont eat that by some and by others that they do eat veggies))
2 medium/small half logs
1 large rock cavern
A TON OF DRIFT WOOD TO CLIMB ON
a sunlamp on one side of the tank
a Uva Uvb Light on the other side of the tank
a humidity/temp gadge (I will calibrate it)
a screen lid
screen lid clamps
and of course a female beardie

I think I have the complete list up of what i need, please do edit if I am missing something! Oh and I love your hijacking!!! I always am interested in new things!!! :blob8: :blob5: :blob8:
 

spurlee01

BD.org Addict
Just a couple of minor details...
The UVB and heat lamp should be on the same side of your tank so your beardie can get the benefit of both. My girl spends about 15 minutes a day on the "cool side" of the tank, so she would get virtually no UVB if I did that.
If you are getting a beardie under a year, I wouldn't use sand at all. At 9 months Lilly still licks a lot and they have a sticky tongue, so even without meaning to she could ingest some of it. If you do use sand make sure it's sifted play sand like what you buy at home depot. Reptile sands are actually dangerous.
Has anyone told you about supplements- vitamins and calcium?
 

BigMaC

Member
Original Poster
Okay, And I use playsand no matter what, and suppliments are a MUST! I give my hermies suppliments so giving them suppliments is no big deal, other than calcium what will it need?
 

spurlee01

BD.org Addict
You will need a calcium with d3 if you are using a UVB like the reptisun 10.0 (best UVB on the market). Your other option is a Mecury Vapor Bulb which gives off heat and UVB, if you get one of those you need calcium without d3. Dust one feeding a day with calc 5x per week for young beardies. Vitamins- just get a good multi-vitamin. Either herptivite by zoo med or I use this one because it's much cheaper:
http://www.petmountain.com/product/reptile-supplements/502975/tetrafauna-reptolife-plus-1.77-oz.html
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Latest resources

Latest profile posts

Kubet77 là nhà cái đánh giá uy tín hoạt động từ năm 2005, có giấy phép bảo hộ từ PAGCOR, thu hút nhiều người chơi tại Việt Nam và Châu Á nhờ dịch vụ đáng tin cậy. Website: Kubet77 🎖️ Nhà Cái Cá Cược Trực Tuyến Đáng Chơi Nhất 2024 Địa chỉ: Số 27 Đường số 7, Cityland Park Hills,
Go88 là một trong những nhà cái cá cược trực tuyến hàng đầu với danh tiếng vững chắc trong cộng đồng người chơi.
Website: https://https://appgo88.link/
Tag: #appgo88link #go88link #Game_Go88 #Game_bài_Go88 #Cổng_game_Go88 #Tài_xỉu_Go88 #Nạp_tiền_Go88 #Rút_tiền_Go88 #play_Go88
Website:
https://smartcity.bandung.go.id/member/bsc3090527795d
Mirage came out of brumation on April 26. He was doing great. On May 2 he started acting funny. We just redid his tank, and he keeps going into one of his hides. He just lays there. He shows no intrest in food. HELP!

Forum statistics

Threads
156,263
Messages
1,259,534
Members
76,158
Latest member
dinogame
Top Bottom