Slate tile how to?

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katieerin

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I'm looking into using slate tile in my beardie's viv, and I think I'm going to go with the un-grouted method so I can pull them out for easier cleaning. But I have lots of questions...

How tight of a fit do I need so there's not a chance of his toes getting caught? I mean it can't be too tight, or I won't be able to get them back out?

Will lowe's/home depot cut tile if I need it?

If my tank is 36x18, is that what I look for? (So like 6x6 tiles or 12x12)

I think that's all for now. Thanks!
 

halffrozen

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The measurements of the inside of the tank will be off by what ever the glass thickness is plus a little bit more for the sealant. From the outside of the tank.

In my opinion, it is alot better to have as least as many pieces of tile you can have. Makes cleaning much easier, and the poop doesn't stick to the side of the tiles.
 

katieerin

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Oh yeah, I'm definitely going to cover the whole bottom with tile, just not sure how tightly they should fit together. I don't want little toes to get hurt.
 

Jaskotch

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katieerin":67vf9662 said:
I'm looking into using slate tile in my beardie's viv, and I think I'm going to go with the un-grouted method so I can pull them out for easier cleaning. But I have lots of questions...

How tight of a fit do I need so there's not a chance of his toes getting caught? I mean it can't be too tight, or I won't be able to get them back out?

Will lowe's/home depot cut tile if I need it?

If my tank is 36x18, is that what I look for? (So like 6x6 tiles or 12x12)

I think that's all for now. Thanks!

Personally, I like the bigger (in this case, 12x12) option when it comes to tiles. You'll have less cracks with fewer tiles. Obviously you'll have to have some tiles cut. I do believe the hardware stores will do that. What I don't know is if you can take them home, fit them to determine where you want them cut, then bring them back to have them cut... which is what I'd want to do. You can always ask. Wet tile saws are actually pretty cheap, if you think you'll ever have a need- I had got one for $62 a few years back and it did a much better job than Lowes would've with the cutting of my tiles... maybe you even know someone who has one. but at any rate, yea, you'll need to get some cut. To minimize the cutting though, and keep the amount of cracks minimal, and make them easier to remove, consider what I did with my 8x16 porcelain tiles in my 48x24 viv... http://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=185611&start=15
The inside floorspace of my viv is something less than 48x24 obviously......... so I first laid out the back row of three 8x16 tiles. Turns out I had to slice off a little less than an inch off the third tile to get it to fit into the width of the floor (you can see the slices of tile that I cut, three total, leaning against the viv stand at the bottom right of the pic below). Then I laid out the front row of three 8x16 tiles, again slicing off a bit of the third to get it to fit. Finally, I laid out the middle row of three, on top of the front and back row, so that there is about an inch of overlap on the front and back of each tile. And again, slicing that bit off the third in the row so that it fit flush to the width. So, no cracks all along the length of the floor, the only cracks are running front to back, the three lines where the tiles meet flush. Only 3 cuts required. Also, you can always get your fingers on an edge of a tile, so they are easy to pick up, no tool required. I don't know if I've explained myself very well, but hopefully you will see what I mean :)

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katieerin

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So even the ones on top don't get moved around? Like your beardie doesn't move them out of place?
 

Jaskotch

Juvie Member
oh no- they're not slippery at all. quite rough, in fact- that's why I selected this particular tile. now if it was a glazed, slippery tile, well i don't know. but you don't want something slippery in there anyway. and these tiles are quite heavy. i'd be frankly amazed if a beardie ever managaed to move them. plus, there'll be stuff setting on top of them, furnishings and such.
i would think slate would be the same. nice and heavy, not slippery. i mean, just go to lowes and try sliding one over the other by pushing - you'll see it's not that easy.
 

RuselBro

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If you Enclosure is 36L x 18W then you will need exactly 3 Piece's of 12x12 Slate Tile and 3 Piece's of 6x6 Slate Tile. As 3 12x12 Piece's will cover the Length of the Tank but there will be 6 inches of Floor/Glass open from the 18 Width, that's why you add the 3 Piece's of 6x6 in. "12 + 6 = 18" Lolol

But as mentioned above the actual inside of the tank will not measure exactly 36L x 18W due to the Glass thickness and sealant. So you should get 1 piece of the 12x12 Tile's and get 1 Inch Cut from only 1 side of that Tile, so 3 of the side's will still be 12" and 1 side of the tile will be 11". This is to make sure all 3 12x12 fit in the length of the Tank. Then for the 3 6x6 piece's get 1 inch cut off the top of each piece. So 3 side's will be 6" and 1 side will 5" and all 3 piece's of 6x6 should be like that. And that is to make sure they fit in the Width of the tank after the 12x12 piece's have already put in.

And if you want to get extra piece's pf each size for back up incase some break or for cleaning and replacing, just make sure they are cut like the other's.
 

halffrozen

Hatchling Member
Looking through my phone and I found what I my self had measured.

17.25" x 35" for a 40 gallon breeder.
 

MsWanda10166

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I have 2"x4" and 4"x4" slate tiles in mine. They are a fairly snug fit, and yes I had to cut a few. I pop the tiles that occasionally get soiled out with tweezers, and wash them off, if anything leaks to the glass I wipe it up with the vinager wipes discribed at the top of this forum with a sticky. It works great, and no smell lingers and no chance of bacteria growing.
 

katieerin

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Thanks for all the great answers :D So another question - if I do decide to just put them in permanently, how is that done? Just grout? (Any non-toxic one recommended or anything?) Or do I have to use grout and sealant or something...
 

halffrozen

Hatchling Member
I would think all grout is inert... but when purchasing it, just tell them what the grout will be exposed to.
 

MsWanda10166

Hatchling Member
You have to seal the grout. If you do not it is porous and any poo will seep in and make it smell. I painted my viv furniture with grout, and then my dragon pood and I cleaned it off, and cleaned off the grout too. (lol) So I had to repaint and seal it.
 

MsWanda10166

Hatchling Member
I bought a water based spray sealant that I got from LOWES. It was the easiest way for me. They also offer a sealant that you paint on, I believe that the requirement that makes it safe for our dragons, is water based grout sealer, it takes longer to dry, but doen not give off as many fumes.
 

PghReptiles

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Would silicone caulking work as well? I have a tube I used to seal and glue cork backgrounds to my crested gecko tanks. Im making the switch from sand to slate tile after reading about the advantages and health reasons.
 
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