Site will be offline on Wednesday evening, Jan 19!

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No, there will be no temporary page. The hosting provider does not manage the system beyond basic network, power, and rack space. They do not manage the DNS domains, nor other things. All of that for the sites this server is handled BY this server. For their Virtual Host environments, they were able to make a fairly seamless transition. For their shared hosted accounts, they could control all of that. But with dedicated servers, we lease a server. What we use it for, what domains that are handled by it, etc... that's up to us, and not something they are involved with (or really all that aware of).

It's POSSIBLE, that I could setup Solutions (man, I need to remember to transfer the domain away from them) to have some alternate system manage the DNS servers and put up a temporary page. But then I'd have to have access to another DNS server (which I could borrow a friend's server for, if needed). But then when the servers came back online, I'd have to switch things back myself being much more closely coupled to the physical server's move schedule.

We don't run in a redundant mode (too costly). I probably should at least setup DNS to use my friend's server as one of the available servers for domain resolution, anyway. And that would have made the change a little easier. But still would require me to manually do more work and be up at the wee hours on a Wednesday night just waiting for a server to come back online.

I think we'll just have to deal with it "missing". That's kind of why I put the notice up early.

As for having server 1 and server 2... that doesn't address data. Data is not replicated, and in order to have that kind of redundancy between servers, you'd have to have them both be able to access common network storage space (harder to do when spanning data center). And if they didn't, they'd be responsible for ensuring data was in sync (also harder to do with a dedicated server). I don't let them login to the box. First thing I did when the server account was ready was to change the root password and lock down the server.

So, anyway... it's a complicated thing to do a server move without having fairly complex infrastructure already in place to support that... and that's some VERY expensive stuff. We're just a little ol' website operating off what ad money and donations we get. heh. :)

-Alex
 

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Yeah I suppose. I was thinking more in the shared hosting side of things. Did not really take in to account that you are on a dedicated system. My sites are not popular enough to need that yet. Thanks again for the early heads up.
 

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Hehehe. Yeah... we've gone through the phases of outgrowing accounts. heh. First it was run from home (DSL connection being the limiting factor eventually. Then we went to a shared hosting account, where memory and CPU usage was getting to be too much (they kept complaining). Then we upgraded to a virtual server, but very quickly outgrew that (about a year I think). And about 2-3 years ago... wow... doing the math.. it's actually been over 3.5 years ago (mid 2007) that we upgraded to the dedicated host. I thought it was less... but I guess now (confirmed with the cancellation email of the virtual server account). And now... it's time to upgrade once more... we're on a dinky Intel Celeron CPU with only 1 GB of memory. I just put in the order for the new dedicated host. It will be an AMD Opteron dual core processor with 4 GB of RAM. It will be niiiiice, compared to this. By default the config was only 2 GB of RAM, but I decided that the extra money was worth the growth opportunity. When pre-paying for a full year, it is actually a tad cheaper than our current hosting price. :)

I will likely start configuring it late this week or early next week (I'm busy this weekend). :) And in a month, I expect we'll be migrated over to the new beefy server! :) And for that, I'll be sure to have a nice friendly page saying we're down for migration/upgrade, as I will be moving pieces at a time (DNS will be one of the first things moving, so I can point the website to the new server with a temporary page while the final data copy is done).
 

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How did the update go Alex? It sure seems faster right now. 8) Wait, I just realized that it's tomorrow night. :oops: I'm happy with the way it's working right now though.
 

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Very cool :D I did wonder why the homepage wouldn't load up at all ... just got white blank page constantly. But i managed to get in through the side door to the forums and its all good :D :headbang: :notworthy:
 

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Uh oh. That's not good. The home page shouldn't be broken. looking into it before they shut us down. hehehe. Thanks for letting me know.

-Alex
 

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Fixed... oops. hehe. I was testing out some test stuff earlier, and left a file that was causing the blank page.

We will likely be getting shut down soon. Take a deep breath,... but I don't recommend holding it. It will be a while. ;)
 

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beardie":1bnmad8y said:
Fixed... oops. hehe. I was testing out some test stuff earlier, and left a file that was causing the blank page.

We will likely be getting shut down soon. Take a deep breath,... but I don't recommend holding it. It will be a while. ;)
Whew! I had started to panic when I also received the pretty white space, even after refreshing the page.
Since we all would be looking for something to do tonight, maybe we should have a contest to see who could hold their breath the longest :mrgreen:
 

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Heh. Well, I know what I'm doing. The new dedicated server has been setup (fresh setup), so I'll be doing the initial setup and lock down of the system to prepare it for setting up all the software I'll be putting on it (for the site, email, etc.). :)

-Alex
 

MarleyMoe

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Ah ha so i wasn't going doolally :lol: Glad i mentioned it now 'yay ' i was useful hehe.

Might have to stick the PS3 on and hope the beardies don't do anything crazy otherwise i'l will go doolally :shock: 8)
 

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I'm not sure how on the dot they will be for shutting down. They schedule the window, but they may be going through 100 different servers, and we might be last on the list. *shrug* But it should be in a little bit. And there won't be any "side entrances". hehe. When it shuts down, ALL of the data and system that makes this site gets unplugged from the Internet and will be rolling down some street in a truck. :)
 
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