Nebulizing

[NewDragonMommy]

So by baby bearded has been battling this respiratory infection for like a month almost. And a few people on here told me to try a nebulizer in addition to the baytril she is on. So here is the low down. I have been using saline in the nebulizer 2 times a day in 5-10 minute intervals. When she get out she is "popping" more. Is this maybe because it is loosening up the mucus in her lungs? Or is she getting worse?

And just because I know I'll get asked
Age- 3 or 4 months give or take a couple weeks
Length- 9 inches snout to tail

Tank-20 gallon long for now
Bright white basking bulb (temp 110-115) while she is sick
I did have mercury vapor bulb, but it broke. I now have a reprising 10 uvb t8 coming in the mail

Substrate is paper towels while she is sick and they get changed out every day because I am disinfecting her tank every day while she is sick.

I have been assist feeding crickets calcium dusted and or prebiotic dusted, 3 times a day.

Poop are normal....and I think I've run out of things to mention! Hahahaha

 

[kingofnobbys]

Heard good reports from people who nebulised their sick reptiles with F10. Seems effective for RIs.

Keep his enclosure emacculately clean til it heals enough to be germ proof - use F10 vetinary solution (will kill off any bacteria on the surfaces , his furnature and is safe to use in the presence of reptiles and non-toxic to humans). Normal household cleaners are DANGEROUS to use in enclosures and any where near lizards. This is best http://www.vetmedsonline.co.uk/product/ ... rate_200ml , diluted at least 1:100.



F10® ANTISEPTIC SOLUTION (CONCENTRATE), a clear liquid with a slight natural odour. Composition per 100ml - Benzalkonium Chloride 5.40g, Polyhexanide 0.40g, non toxic ampholytic surfactants, sequesterants and water to balance. F10® ANTISEPTIC SOLUTION (RTU), composition per 100ml - Benzalkonium Chloride 0.022, Polyhexanide 0.0016g, non toxic ampholytic surfactants, sequesterants and water to balance.



Uses

Nebulising, fogging, nasal and sinus flushing, wound irrigation, large volume lavage, and skin decontamination in pigeons, cage birds including birds of prey; terrarium animals and reptiles; small rodents (including hamsters, guinea pigs, mice, rats), rabbits, ferrets.



Dosage and administration

Use only as directed.

Prevention and treatment of respiratory diseases

Using clean or distilled water prepare a solution of 1:250 of F10® Antiseptic Solution or use the F10® Antiseptic Solution (RTU). Administer topically using a nebuliser or fogger for 20 to 30 minutes at least twice daily.

Nasal and Sinus Flushing to remove accumulated mucus and inflammatory material. Using normal saline prepare a solution of 1:250 of F10® Antiseptic Solution or use the F10® Antiseptic Solution (RTU). Restrain the animal with its head downwards to avoid aspiration and syringe the cavity as necessary.

Wound irrigation and lavage Using normal saline prepare a solution of 1:250 of F10® Antiseptic Solution or use the F10® Antiseptic Solution (RTU) and irrigate or lavage as necessary.

Skin decontamination Using clean or distilled water prepare a solution of 1:250 of F10® Antiseptic Solution or use the F10® Antiseptic Solution (RTU). Apply topically as a wash, soak, spray or by fogging and leave to air dry.

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forums/snakes/105167-using-f10-nebuliser-r-i.html

http://thereptilereport.com/diy-treatment-chamber-for-ris-in-snakes/

I am not a vet , but I see no reason why you can't do both (F10 and Baytril) .

 

[Taterbug]

F10 is not always easily available in the US. My vet wasn't familiar with it and couldn't recommend it for use in a nebulizer but I have seen information from vets in the UK using it.

It sounds like you should discuss your treatment with your vet more. They ought be able to advice you on nebulizing and if you should add or switch the medication. If you can afford a bacterial culture+sensitivity that can also help identify if the infection is potentially resistant to the antibiotics.

 

[kingofnobbys]

F10 is not always easily available in the US. My vet wasn't familiar with it and couldn't recommend it for use in a nebulizer but I have seen information from vets in the UK using it. <<<< here you go .... easy to find (available from LLL Reptile (in California) https://www.lllreptile.com/products/18709-f10sc-veterinary-disinfectant-34oz. a small bottle like this will go a L----O----N----G way as you are diluting to about 1:250 to 1:125 to use depending on what kind of pathogens you want killed.

It sounds like you should discuss your treatment with your vet more. They ought be able to advice you on nebulizing and if you should add or switch the medication. If you can afford a bacterial culture+sensitivity that can also help identify if the infection is potentially resistant to the antibiotics.

If your vet hasn't heard of it and it's uses and effectiveness, he aint much of a vet IMO. Vets and keepers and breeders here in Australia sware by the stuff.

 

[Taterbug]

I actually have a bottle and love the stuff but I haven't looked for it in a while since it does last. I guess it's been longer than I thought since I got mine it looks like there is a import/distribution network now, which is great and the FDA has approved it for use as RI treatment.

I wouldn't consider my vet a bad one since F10 wasn't legally considered a medication/drug here until 2015.

 

[CooperDragon]

the FDA has approved it for use as RI treatment.

Wow, that's really good to know!