Loose substrate VS non

Vexor1717

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Low humidity isn't even an issue in my opinion. In Australia there are times when humidity is dead zero so I wouldn't even bother with the humidifier ;)
Our vet told us that it can lead to dehydration.
 

Chris.

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Luis and Lilith
Our vet told us that it can lead to dehydration.
If they would be able to somehow filter water out of the air, that would be news to me.

Most of their water comes from their food and if you are worried about dehydration you can use an eyedropper to give them some more. But I don't think they take up water through their skin or vent or some other way then orally.
 

NickAVD

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Foxy
If they would be able to somehow filter water out of the air, that would be news to me.

Most of their water comes from their food and if you are worried about dehydration you can use an eyedropper to give them some more. But I don't think they take up water through their skin or vent or some other way then orally.
This is just my guess. Perhaps dragons can moisturized if they inhale air with high humidity.
 
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Chris.

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Beardie name(s)
Luis and Lilith
This is just my guess. Perhaps dragons can become hydrated if they inhale air with high humidity.
Humans can absorb water through their lungs, yes but bearded dragons can not (to my knowledge). That is why they are more prone to RIs if they get too much moisture in their lungs and not enough heat to vaporize it.
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I'm not sure right now if I read this in a serious book or on google, maybe @Claudiusx can shed some light ;)
 

NickAVD

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Foxy
Humans can absorb water through their lungs, yes but bearded dragons can not (to my knowledge). That is why they are more prone to RIs if they get too much moisture in their lungs and not enough heat to vaporize it.
Yes, you are right. This really explains RI.
 

Carol123

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Rexy and Dum Dum
This is just my guess. Perhaps dragons can moisturized if they inhale air with high humidity. My Vet has me give my 12 month old a bath every other day to keep him moisturized because he has gout. They do get moisture from their skin just to let you know.
 

AHBD

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Tile or any permanent hard surface will most likely affect a beardie's feet + joints over it's life time. Pictures of their wild habitat may contain a few rocky areas but most is hard packed earth or sand, grassy areas with bushes + trees.
Tile is 100 % unnatural and there have been cases here where dragons had sores on the bottom of their feet, it's pretty much common sense that most animals would be uncomfortable living almost all it's life on an unnatural hard surface and could have bad affects. Cows develop joint problems and humans can also when working on concrete.

As for humidity it seems that beardies can tolerate both low and high humidity but a mid range in the 30's to 60's seems to be the best, or most common that they live in both in the wild and captivity.
 

xp29

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@Carol123
Here you can read about hydration of bearded dragons. As far as I understand, dragons can only absorb water orally
You are absolutely correct.
Beardies have to take water orally to hydrate.
The only reason to ever give a beardie a bath is if the are dirty and need to be cleaned up, or if there is something else going on like a sperm plug and it needs to be softened for removal.
 

NickAVD

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Foxy
You are absolutely correct.
Beardies have to take water orally to hydrate.
The only reason to ever give a beardie a bath is if the are dirty and need to be cleaned up, or if there is something else going on like a sperm plug and it needs to be softened for removal.
I would also add to your list - to soften the glands on the legs of males so that it is easier for them to cope with them, for example on stones in a terrarium. It's very strange that veterinarians are misleading about hydration
 

xp29

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I would also add to your list - to soften the glands on the legs of males so that it is easier for them to cope with them, for example on stones in a terrarium. It's very strange that veterinarians are misleading about hydration
I don't think they do it on purpose, I think most of them don't really get schooling on reptiles and base their opinions off of quick google searches, and we all know how dangerous that can be. That's how most if us end up on this forum lol 😆 (looking for valid info)
 

NickAVD

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Beardie name(s)
Foxy
I don't think they do it on purpose, I think most of them don't really get schooling on reptiles and base their opinions off of quick google searches
Exactly. Veterinarian: "You need to give an enema and bathe your dragon more often for hydration🥸 (and quickly closes google). You owe me 200 bucks for the visit" :ROFLMAO:
 

Chris.

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Beardie name(s)
Luis and Lilith
To be fair though, there are just so many different amphibians, reptiles, lizards, snakes, frogs, insects (I know I'm mixing terminology here ;)) and what have you. Knowing a lot about one species is difficult already but a vet will probably have to take care off many more on a daily basis.
Nobody can know everything but I agree that treating animals for money also brings some responsibility with it as well.
 

NickAVD

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Beardie name(s)
Foxy
To be fair though, there are just so many different amphibians, reptiles, lizards, snakes, frogs, insects (I know I'm mixing terminology here ;)) and what have you. Knowing a lot about one species is difficult already but a vet will probably have to take care off many more on a daily basis.
Nobody can know everything but I agree that treating animals for money also brings some responsibility with it as well.
I just described the problem in a joking manner. It is sad that a veterinarian who has no experience does not admit this and gives dangerous advice.
This is probably because my work involves precision accuracy and I don’t at all understand this behavior of specialists in their profession.
 

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