Is my dragon Sick, Going through early Brumation or Stressed

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muzikfreakah

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@dragons1222 is right, I willl not need D3 because of the Megaray MVB.

As for the vits, as this age its 3-4x so I have it at 3x a week for the Herptivit and once a day for the calcium.

I am in the Philippine, is hot here, so my cool area is always at 80-85 that is why there is no need for a lamp there. Once MVB is enough I guess for a tropical area. There is a stone at the bottom of the hamock for him to go on top on, I have it lower because it gets really hot since I have a 160watt MVB, I even think I need to raise it higher, like 20-22" as now the distance between the tip of the bulb and basking area is 19" already and if I place my platform right below it @ 19" it gets too hot, platform heats up to 112-115. So on cheechas, tank, at the left, I place the platform a little further away to get around 101-105F and on chongs tank (my sickly looking dragon) I have a small rock below the hamock.

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Hopefully she poops today and I will take it to the dog and cat vet for a stool exam.
 

dragons1222

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ok whatever that is not what i have heard for mutlivitamins but it is your choice i guess

as for temps they need to be 110-115 for dragons their age

105 is more for adults

i know people who give their adult beardies the higher temps and they regularly bask in them
they need the high temps to properly digest thier food
 

MissT

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Can they see each other in those vivs - I would recommend you put something between the two of them such as a background or a piece of cardboard as she may be stressing him out!!

T
 

muzikfreakah

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dragons1222":a7528 said:
ok whatever that is not what i have heard for mutlivitamins but it is your choice i guess

as for temps they need to be 110-115 for dragons their age

105 is more for adults

i know people who give their adult beardies the higher temps and they regularly bask in them
they need the high temps to properly digest thier food

I know it gets confusing, I follow what i See here

which is:
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For the temps, the basking spot gets up to 115, I got scared that I mite burn him, onthe care sheet here at BD.org it says 105-110 only. Should I increase it? I also read that adults can take 95-100 already. :banghead:
 

muzikfreakah

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MissT":45f9b said:
Can they see each other in those vivs - I would recommend you put something between the two of them such as a background or a piece of cardboard as she may be stressing him out!!

T

Did that just last Saturday:
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diamc

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Hi, sorry to hear that one of your babies still isn't doing well. If I could make a suggestion, you can safely move the Megaray 24" away from the basking spot in order for him to still get the benefit of it since it is a 160 watt bulb. The MVB's not only throw out a lot of heat but also put out a lot of ultra violet rays, so I suggest you try moving it further away and see how he acts then. It seems to me that he is trying to avoid and it is irritating his eyes. It's not a good idea to have a temp any higher than 110 anywhere in their tanks because babies can get dehydrated very quickly which will also affect their eyes. I also noticed that the other beardie isn't laying in the basking spot in his tank either, so you really might want to consider moving both bulbs further away. Let us know how it goes.
 

muzikfreakah

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diamc":7ba7a said:
Hi, sorry to hear that one of your babies still isn't doing well. If I could make a suggestion, you can safely move the Megaray 24" away from the basking spot in order for him to still get the benefit of it since it is a 160 watt bulb. The MVB's not only throw out a lot of heat but also put out a lot of ultra violet rays, so I suggest you try moving it further away and see how he acts then. It seems to me that he is trying to avoid and it is irritating his eyes. It's not a good idea to have a temp any higher than 110 anywhere in their tanks because babies can get dehydrated very quickly which will also affect their eyes. I also noticed that the other beardie isn't laying in the basking spot in his tank either, so you really might want to consider moving both bulbs further away. Let us know how it goes.

Copy that, will figure out a way to do that, my problem is I dont have a stand, I have to find a way to elevate the lamps :-(

And I just the results of their stool exams:
http://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=95649

The only reptile vet i Know is out of town and will be back Jan 3, in the meantime he gave me a go to give them acidophlius for humans.
 

muzikfreakah

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Advance Merry Christmas Everyone! Just 5 more hours till Christmas here in the Philippines.

I managed to get an electrician here today and raised it 5 inches more giving me around 24.5" from the tip of the bulb to the basking spot below.

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