Ideal uvb setup

BrdedDrgon

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I currently have a poor uvb setup, and am planning to get a Reptisun 10.0 T5 Uvb and a Reptisun Terrarium Hood. What I am wondering is with this setup, would my beardie get enough UVB if I place it on top of the wire mesh roof of the terrarium, 14 inches from the basking spot, or should I mount it somehow below the roof inside the terrarium?
 

hdochow

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it will depend on the size of the holes in the mesh. posting a picture of it will be most helpful.
 

KarrieRee

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I currently have a poor uvb setup, and am planning to get a Reptisun 10.0 T5 Uvb and a Reptisun Terrarium Hood. What I am wondering is with this setup, would my beardie get enough UVB if I place it on top of the wire mesh roof of the terrarium, 14 inches from the basking spot, or should I mount it somehow below the roof inside the terrarium?
As posted it depends on the screen--- fine mesh screens like a screen door it will need to go inside the tank ones like this it can be placed on top
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BrdedDrgon

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The enclosure is the Exo-Terra Large Wide terrarium, with wire mesh roof. Each hole in the mesh is about 1mm wide.
The black thing at the top of the photos is my current uvb setup which I am going to replace.
 

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KarrieRee

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The enclosure is the Exo-Terra Large Wide terrarium, with wire mesh roof. Each hole in the mesh is about 1mm wide.
The black thing at the top of the photos is my current uvb setup which I am going to replace.
It can stay on top just have your UVB directly over a piece of basking decor piece w/ a distance of 8-10 inches
 

BrdedDrgon

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It can stay on top just have your UVB directly over a piece of basking decor piece w/ a distance of 8-10 inches
The problem is having it on top is 14 inches away from the basking spot and moving it that much further up would make the heat from the heat lamp way too much.
 

KarrieRee

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The problem is having it on top is 14 inches away from the basking spot and moving it that much further up would make the heat from the heat lamp way too much.
The UVB is separate from the heat lamp - they should sit next to each other - its easier to move basking decor pieces around than the UVB - place the UVB width wise if you haft to w/ the basking lamp next to it - I am not getting the moving the much further up part-
 

BrdedDrgon

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The UVB is separate from the heat lamp - they should sit next to each other - its easier to move basking decor pieces around than the UVB - place the UVB width wise if you haft to w/ the basking lamp next to it - I am not getting the moving the much further up part-
Sorry, reread your initial comment, I misunderstood. Now I get it, thank you for your help!
 

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You might also consider adding a higher perch of some sort. A branch or similar perhaps. This could allow closer access to the UVB light, but still be separate from the main basking area. They can climb up higher if they feel like they need some more intense UVB. Providing options like this for both heat and UVB can be beneficial since they're pretty good at self regulating to get what they need at any given time.
 

ChileanTaco

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That is a very good idea. For this reason, I have multiple raised areas: A curved branch that goes up to the UVB light, and elevated areas that form a basking platform under the heat lamp and are a bit under the UVB.

They can climb up higher if they feel like they need some more intense UVB. Providing options like this for both heat and UVB can be beneficial since they're pretty good at self regulating to get what they need at any given time.
Exactly. I see this behavior very much in my dragon. I've attached a picture. What I use is two basking lamps (because of: large enclosure, and I cannot get a single lamp stronger than 100 W here) and a UVB tube.
The branch gets more UVB, the areas behind get more from the basking lamps. Because of shape of the branch my dragon can climb it up gradually.
(Photo is a bit older, I have redone the left part adding something to climb instead of the bowl, but everything else is the same.)
 

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BrdedDrgon

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That is a very good idea. For this reason, I have multiple raised areas: A curved branch that goes up to the UVB light, and elevated areas that form a basking platform under the heat lamp and are a bit under the UVB.


Exactly. I see this behavior very much in my dragon. I've attached a picture. What I use is two basking lamps (because of: large enclosure, and I cannot get a single lamp stronger than 100 W here) and a UVB tube.
The branch gets more UVB, the areas behind get more from the basking lamps. Because of shape of the branch my dragon can climb it up gradually.
(Photo is a bit older, I have redone the left part adding something to climb instead of the bowl, but everything else is the same.)
What is the rocky area your beardie is on made of?
 

ChileanTaco

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The rocky area in the back and right is made of MDF to which I nailed some styrofoam (actually: nails through the MFD, then press the styrofoam onto the nails). Then styrofoam covered in expansion foam (construction foam). The construction foam, once dried (I gave it a week as only working on it on weekends), I then cut in a bit a better shape using a knife (as it will expand, the foam will often get larger than intended). Then I covered it with two layers of tile glue (that's something similar to concrete). Into the last layer of tile glue I mixed sand and then covered it with sand. Once dried, I put it in the enclosure (I'd say, give it another week).
It needs to be built outside of the enclosure, then put in, and it must be fixed to the back and side using aquarium-grade silicone to prevent it from falling over. Also, around it I sealed it off with the silicone to prevent any feeder insects from running behind it. Otherwise, you would soon have the dubias behind it.

I have it now for about a year and it looks just like it did in the beginning.
It's a standard way to construct "stone walls" for desert terrariums. It's also quite simple. The one you see in the photo is the first one and it immediately worked out so well. I don't say this for bragging but just to show that it won't go terribly wrong - with that material you will always get a natural-looking object. It might not always look like intended (here, during building it, I broke off a piece of styrofoam accidentially knocking something over with the can of expansion foam...), but it always looks natural and about "accidents", only you would know ;)

As the styrofoam is completely covered, there is no risk of little styrofoam beads coming lose. Also, there is no squeaking styrofoam sound or such for the same reason as there is nothing exposed and everything is hard, like stone.

The rocks on the sand are all real.
 
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ChileanTaco

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Photos from how I built it, did it on the balcony to let it air out.
(Shows also from where I got the sand as we're here in the desert :D)
 

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BrdedDrgon

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The rocky area in the back and right is made of MDF to which I nailed some styrofoam (actually: nails through the MFD, then press the styrofoam onto the nails). Then styrofoam covered in expansion foam (construction foam). The construction foam, once dried (I gave it a week as only working on it on weekends), I then cut in a bit a better shape using a knife (as it will expand, the foam will often get larger than intended). Then I covered it with two layers of tile glue (that's something similar to concrete). Into the last layer of tile glue I mixed sand and then covered it with sand. Once dried, I put it in the enclosure (I'd say, give it another week).
It needs to be built outside of the enclosure, then put in, and it must be fixed to the back and side using aquarium-grade silicone to prevent it from falling over. Also, around it I sealed it off with the silicone to prevent any feeder insects from running behind it. Otherwise, you would soon have the dubias behind it.

I have it now for about a year and it looks just like it did in the beginning.
It's a standard way to construct "stone walls" for desert terrariums. It's also quite simple. The one you see in the photo is the first one and it immediately worked out so well. I don't say this for bragging but just to show that it won't go terribly wrong - with that material you will always get a natural-looking object. It might not always look like intended (here, during building it, I broke off a piece of styrofoam accidentially knocking something over with the can of expansion foam...), but it always looks natural and about "accidents", only you would know ;)

As the styrofoam is completely covered, there is no risk of little styrofoam beads coming lose. Also, there is no squeaking styrofoam sound or such for the same reason as there is nothing exposed and everything is hard, like stone.

The rocks on the sand are all real.
That’s awesome. I think I’ll build a similar platform to let my beardie take advantage of that UVB. Thanks!
 

ChileanTaco

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You and your Snoopy for sure will have fun with it :)
I have discovered that my Taco loves very much all the different surfaces, gaps, small spaces to get into... in that thing. Funny how as he grows discovers all the time new things that fit to this new body size :D He for example now loves to fit in the gap between the hide and the "board" on the left side, peaking up on the very left... where a piece broke off during building it and now his head fits through :D He also likes the slope on the right side on the hide, he comes over to the right when he's basking but wants to show that he likes to get out. When he was smaller (a baby), he was sitting directly on the wall, making use of the roughness of the wall to climb.
 

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