Help! Baby beardie not eating and acting lethargic!

[TheRealestBeardie]

I really need help, he keeps constantly closing his eyes, not moving until you move him enough to disturb him. His husbandry and lights are fine but he won't eat or do anything like that. Being lethargic is also playing in. Could it be intimation from the bigger dragon I have? Would it be worth it to make a barrier between their terrariums?

 

[StellaBella]

I'm not an expert but can give my thoughts....I would create a barrier, they seem to act funny when afraid so worth a try. Have you changed this recently? Have you moved his home around or added that larger beardie recently? Has he eaten anything new right before or been outside maybe exposed to pesticides?

 

[TheRealestBeardie]

I'm not an expert but can give my thoughts....I would create a barrier, they seem to act funny when afraid so worth a try. Have you changed this recently? Have you moved his home around or added that larger beardie recently? Has he eaten anything new right before or been outside maybe exposed to pesticides?

The larger beardie was there before him. He's my new addition.

 

[destiny1998]

Hi. Can you give a rundown of the set up? Lights? Temps? How you take them? What size is the enclosure? How big is he?

 

[destiny1998]

If they are housed together? You need to sperate. The older one can eat the other one. Beardies are territorial and do not like other beardies living with them.

 

[TheRealestBeardie]

If they are housed together? You need to sperate. The older one can eat the other one. Beardies are territorial and do not like other beardies living with them.

They are not living together.

 

[kingofnobbys]

A common mistake is cohabitation (if sharing tank or can see another beardie) , even if he can see another beardie , or a snake or very large lizard ?
Are there other pets (cats, dogs ) in the household ?

And details of your feeding schedule and other husbandry aspects .
Might be a very easy fix .

Photos of the tank and showing substrate and lighting and of the beardies will help too. Use XIMG button to upload photos from your computer.

How heavy are each of the beardies ?
...... recommend weighing them regularly (weekly say)?

Another common mistake is to believe based on bad advise (often given by a petshop or incompetent breeder or by a previous keeper who is incompetent) that you have the heat and setup and UV correct. More often than not the Noob beardie owner has many problems simply because he took the bad advise and knew no better .

Can you give us a good rundown on the setup and schedules (light and feeding) :
Basking light
........ is it a coloured globe ? (BAD)
........ what is it's wattage ?
........ how far from the basking spot ?

TEMPERATURES ?
>>> daytime
.......warm zone
.......basking spot
...... how are you measuring your temperatures ?
TOO COLD = SLEEPY DRAGON
>>> overnight minimum viv temperatures ?

UVA AND UVB ADEQUATE ?
>>> is the uv rated AT LEAST 10%UVB ?
>>> is it a COMPACT (curly globe & WATTAGE ?
>>> or a T8 tube ?
>>> or a T5 tube ?
>>> or an MVB ?
VERY IMPORTANT : what is the brand ?
(not all UVB compacts and tubes are created equal or as well , many shops sell their own brand (Zilla, All Living Things, Reptile-One, Nat Geo , Natural Selections (in green boxes) which are cheap Chinese clones made very cheaply using very poor quality quartz glass and cheap phosphors ==> very poor UV spectrum produced incl UVC band and bad parts of the UVB band)

>>> also is it covered (in a domestic fluorescent light fitting )? == BAD
>>> also is it sitting ontop a mesh top ? == BAD
>>> how far from basking spot ?
too far and the UVA and UVB WILL BE TOO DILUTE.
UVA FLUX TOO LOW where dragon is ==> a very lethargic dragon w/ a very poor apetite just in the short term , and neurological problems if this persists , not to mention MVB if UVB flux too low long enough with inadequate metabolisation of dietary calcium or inadequate intake out calcium

http://www.arcadia-reptile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/guide-bearded-dragon.jpg

TANK
>>> size (L x W x H) and construction , photos of the setup are often helpful .

SUBSTRATE ?
>>> is it sand ? == BAD AND IF CALCISAND this is EXTREMELY BAD/LETHAL when ingested
>>> is it particulate ? == BAD

SHARING TANK ? == BAD

TOO SHORT A PHOTOPERIOD (lights are not kept on long enough each day , will make beardie think it is winter , recommend at least 14 HRS PER DAY)

FEEDING SCHEDULE (I recommend at least 2 hrs lights/heat on before first live feed and after last feed of the day)
>>> when are you offering live feeder insects ? what are they ? how big are they ?
>>> when are you offering greens and other veg ? what are you offering ?
good guide is here : http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Nutritionframeset.html

 

[TheRealestBeardie]

I really need help, he keeps constantly closing his eyes, not moving until you move him enough to disturb him. His husbandry and lights are fine but he won't eat or do anything like that. Being lethargic is also playing in. Could it be intimation from the bigger dragon I have? Would it be worth it to make a barrier between their terrariums?

In reply to everything, I have barricaded the two terrariums so they can't see each other and I have been feeding my dragon a cocktail I whipped up with some stuff. He has been acting so onry and biting me when i try to feed him which I can say is good compared to when he'd go limp in my hands.