HELP. 4 year old beardie tail suddenly seems skinny and legs

[Drache613]

Hello,

I PM'd you regarding contagious issues, etc. After reviewing your thread, I don't think it was parasites as it seemed to come on too quickly. Was his beard black before you gave the reptaid & other fluids, or no?
At 4 he is very young, but it still could have been renal or liver failure. That can happen out of nowhere as it is very difficult to recognize signs of orgain problems before it is too late.
Is there any way that he could have gotten into anything toxic that you can think of?
I am so sorry for your loss of Oscar. He was a beautiful dragon, indeed.

Tracie

 

[TheAnthropologist]

Thank-you so much for your help and advice! And yes, he was absolutely stunning. The illness did come on literally over night. The few days before he was fine, eating, healthy and normal. I dont think he could have gotten into anything toxic. To clean my vivs I use non-toxic cleaner and wipe it with water afterwards. I am now using water and vinegar from now on. Thinking about it, liver failure makes sense because his stomach and legs swoll up....which means he had water retention.

His beard was dark before the reptaid....but he got worse after. He started to breath heavy after I gave the reptaid. When I gave it to him I out it on his nose but he would refuse to like it. At one point he opened his mouth wide and I put some on his tongue. I was giving him chicken baby food and butternut squash before I purchased the reptaid and syirnging him pedialyte.
I did have him outside a few weeks before...but he was never really on anything and I use nothing in my yard--fertilizer wise. He was on my shoulder the whole time.

RIP Oscar.

I will find a picture I took of when he was sick.

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

That is really too bad. He was too young.
Usually with sudden death of that manner, it is toxicity, liver or renal failure most of the time. His symptoms fit those as well. I am not sure why though at his age that would have occurred.
I don't think that anything you did caused that, since his beard was dark before you gave the reptaid & other foods etc. The reptaid was likely too strong for him at that point.
What insects do you feed & could they have caused any issues?
You can also use novalsan/chlorhexadine for a non toxic cleaner also.

Tracie

 

[TheAnthropologist]

Hello,

That is really too bad. He was too young.
Usually with sudden death of that manner, it is toxicity, liver or renal failure most of the time. His symptoms fit those as well. I am not sure why though at his age that would have occurred.
I don't think that anything you did caused that, since his beard was dark before you gave the reptaid & other foods etc. The reptaid was likely too strong for him at that point.
What insects do you feed & could they have caused any issues?
You can also use novalsan/chlorhexadine for a non toxic cleaner also.

Tracie

I feed crickets and superworms. But the week leading up to it I had given them canned grasshoppers as a treat (those ones at petsmart and petland). They are in a green container. He ate about two i think....could that have caused anything? I dont know what toxins he could have consumed...ive been using the same cleaner for two years, same system etc. So i dont know why any cleaner would suddenly give him a reaction.