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Midori8

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Hello all!

i hope everyone is doing well. i will start off by saying Jello is doing great and gained about 15g! he's eattin like a horse and decided him new favorite food is horn worms lol his wound is doing fine and it seems to be healing up great. thank you all for the helpful advice!

now i just got a new baby to the family =) well not really a "baby" but a baby to me hehe he is a adult trans. he's almost a year old he is about 20 inches long and a real sweety. he's very new to the family ( bought him today) very fat and well very healthy. i have spoken to this breeder a few times and asked him how he keeps his reptiles and there all the same things i do. i have bought a beardie from him before who was just a sweet heart and a hefty eater. so when i made the purchase i knew it would be a good one. EDIT: i forgot to mention the breeder i bought him from is a hornworm wholesaler so most of his beardies get a diet of hornworms so there all pretty fat haha.

so i take him home and look him over. he's got all his fingers and toes, very clear and clean eyes. he's alert and very curious. his vent is clean and no wounds or anything! he's perfect.

well on the way home i had him under my coat and i thought i could see him shaking his head. but since we where in a moving car i figured it was just the car. well i bring him home and place him in the sink and let him soak for a bit when i noticed the "shaking" again. it's not side to side shaking but like a "shivering" a faint vibrating motion. it reminds me of how a small dog will shake or shiver. now it's only his head. it never lasts long, maybe 5 -10 seconds and it stops. i thought maybe it was MBD but he's a pretty big beardie and the guy who had him before said he had him as a baby and grew him up.

now that he is in his new tank is doesn't do it as much. where in the car or when i had him out he would do it several times then stop. he's in a 55 gallon breeder now and head bobbing everywhere. he is on tile with a brick and marble slab basking area. he has a grape vine branch in there for him to climb on. he has a MVB a exo-terra Sunglo. the basking area reaches about 102 and the cool area is about 75-80. since i have had him home i tried giving him crickets and hornworms. he ate one of the hornworms. he also has a salad of just collards in there which he took a little snack of. i use repti-cal and the the multi vitamin as there vitamin dusting. i feed crickets, roaches, horn worms, silkworms and sometimes super worms.

he's basking and jumping about and running along the day like normal crazy beardies do lol

i wasn't sure if i should bring him to the vet to have him checked out or if its a mild case of mbd in which case will be reversed now. should i wait a week and see how he does? i mean i did just bring the poor guy home today. i was just nervous is could be a sign of something worse =( which i hoping is not the case.

thanks! any questions? ask away =) i tried to answer most of the usual ones.
 

Jasper's Mom

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Campbell does this too and I've never been able to figure it out. She doesn't have MBD (although she does have some other health problems) so I don't believe it's caused by MBD. I will be interested to see what other responses you get. Sorry I don't have more info for you!
 

Midori8

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well it's sort good to hear that someone else has heard or seen the same thing! it certainly a weird thing to see. out of all my beardies i have never seen it before. i am almost sure it's not MBD but who knows. it doesn't bother his eatting and he only does it for a short period of time.

it honestly reminds me of when something is scared. he did it alot outside and now he's not really doing it anymore in the safety of a tank. he just seems to be to busy head bobbing everywhere lol.
 

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Hi, congratulations on your new beardie. I have only seen the head shaking when the beardies are in the bath and the water trickles down the the side of their mouth, I think because it tickles, so I can't help with what you explained. I wonder if maybe he felt off balanced in the car and that's why he was shaking or perhaps even stress related.

I did wonder if you have the Sun Glo or the Solar Glo because the Sun Glo is only a basking bulb and not a MVB, so thought I would mention that.

Good luck with your new beardie.
 

Midori8

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diamc":9a2eb said:
I did wonder if you have the Sun Glo or the Solar Glo because the Sun Glo is only a basking bulb and not a MVB, so thought I would mention that.

Good luck with your new beardie.


ah oops! i ment the solar glo! the exo-terra MVB i currently have 5 and have been using them for about 7 months and work great from what i have seen. ah i buy from here too : http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=2183. there only like 25? i believe there =)
but i would like to buy another reptile UV one when i get a chance. everytime i go to buy one there currently out of stock lol.



well when i get a better look at him up close in the cage i notice he still does it. BUT still not as often. it seems to happen when he looks "up" or tilts his head.
 

diamc

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Ok, so you have the Solar Glo's, that's fine then. If he is still doing the slight shaking, it's possible that he could be dehydrated, a warm soak might be a good idea.
 

Midori8

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when i brought him home i gave him a hour bath in the sink and seemed to enjoy it! so maybe i will give him another today to help him be more hydrated and see if anything changes. i am probably going to go ahead and make a vet appointment as well to see if she knows anything.
 

Midori8

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well i brought x-ray to the vet today and she thinks it might be MBD but she says he feels really solid so she isn't so sure. i sadly didn't have any poop for testing cause he won't poop! he hasn't eatten either which is probably why there is no poop to poo! so the vet thought that maybe he has Coccidia or it could be a because he is lacking a vitamin or mineral. soo we went ahead and drew some blood to see what his blood tests could be. i won't know until tomorrow. well she gave me Albon and liquid calcium, but she told me to wait on the calcium until the test results tomorrow and go to ahead and give him the albon. but i am not sure if i should? i mean isn't albon very strong? i mean she doesn't even know if he has it or not. should i just wait until tomorrow to see what the test says? i just don't want to give him medicine he doesn't need.

it also says give him the albon for 5 days everyday then everyother day for 2 weeks. that seem to much? i am sure vets have different ways of giving the medicine i am just questioning it is all. she is a great vet she just didn't really tell me much of anything and just scooped him away and was poking holes in my poor boy lol hopefully the blood will show something i can correct for him asap!


i need to post some photos of him, wish i could post a video so you call can see the vibrating i see.
 

diamc

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I agree that he shouldn't get the Albon for no reason. Wait to see what the blood test results show and go from there. Giving the liquid calcium is a good idea though.
 

Midori8

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well! looks like i am in luck i manged to find a camera with a video feature so i tried taking a video of X-ray. i hope you can see it, it was hard trying to get good lighting and get close to him lol as you can see he was very interested in the camera and saying hello, shortly after i put him on my knee and if you stare at his beard you can see it. i pet him then you can see it again. hopefully the video is good enough someone can see it.

 

Midori8

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ok i realize it's really hard to see him shaking his head so i went outside and tried to take a better video. i think this one will show exactly what i see.

 

ajax23

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oh the poor thing.....he looks scared or cold or something.....though it's not that!! I'm sorry i've not seen that before, but good luck in finding out what it is and i'll keep reading this thread.
 

diamc

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I wish I could offer you answers but I've never seen that type of shaking before. I wonder if it's neurological? I'm going to send the link to a few others and see if they can offer anything.

It's adorable the way he was so interested in you and the camera wanting to lick it. He is a very sweet beardie. :love5:
 

Midori8

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yes that what worries me that it might be neurological , i am hoping it's not the case. thank you for all your help with trying to help me figure out what is going on.

lol yes he's very curious little guy. wish i could get him to eat! not just lick my camera lol hopefully he settles in soon.
 
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