Hasn't eaten in 2 months!

[Mitsumike]

Ok so here is the deal. Dragon had pinworms and toxidia 2+ months ago. He finished his meds and probiotic about a month ago and hasn't eaten since. I have to keep feeding him baby food b/c he won't eat his supers. I tried not feeding him for a whole week but still nothing.
He has gained back his color and his energy but not his feeding response.
What's the deal? Temps are where they are supposed to be. Night drops don't go under 75. I just don't get it.

Male
160ish grams
11 months old

 

[PuffMagic]

Hi There. Did you get another fecal after the antibiotics and probiotics just to make sure the infection is gone? Sometimes it takes more than one treatment.

 

[Mitsumike]

No I have not. He hasn't defecated very much over the past 2 months, except for orange fecal matter due to the baby food.
Can that be the only reason. I have already dropped $180 so far and can't drop that amount on this animal again.

 

[Mitsumike]

Any other options besides another deworming?

I just see why he won't eat. He ate when it had worms and before the deworming, why won't he eat now?

 

[diamc]

Just to make sure nothing is being missed, could you answer these questions for us? It would help save a lot of time.

How old is your dragon?
How long have you had your dragon?
How long is your dragon?
What is the sex of your dragon?
What size enclosure do you have your dragon in?
What type substrate do you have on the bottom of your tank?
Do you use UVB lights?
If so, Is it a coil, compact, fluorescent tube, or Mercury Vapor bulb?
What is the brand name and number of your bulb? Wattage (if MVB)?
How old is your UVB bulb?
How close can your dragon get to the UVB?
Do you use a separate basking bulb? What kind and what is the wattage? Is it a white or colored bulb?
What are the basking temps?
What is the cool side temp?
Do you take the temps with a stick on thermometer, a digital thermometer with a wire and a probe end or a temp gun?
Where exactly are you taking your basking temps?
Do you use a heat rock or heat pad?
What do you feed your dragon? Please be specific.
How often do you feed and what time do you feed (morning, afternoon, night)?
Do you gutload (feed) your crickets, worms, etc?
Do you use vitamin or calcium supplements? What brand(s)? How many days a week do you use each of them?
Is your dragon having regular bowel movements (poops)?
Do you bath your dragon? How often?
Do you mist your dragon or offer water other than in the bath?
Have you gotten a vet check and fecal done?
Does your dragon share an enclosure with another dragon?

 

[Mitsumike]

How old is your dragon? 11 months
How long have you had your dragon? 7 months
How long is your dragon? 14 inches
What is the sex of your dragon? male
What size enclosure do you have your dragon in? 4 foot rubbermaid
What type substrate do you have on the bottom of your tank? paper towels
Do you use UVB lights? yes
If so, Is it a coil, compact, fluorescent tube, or Mercury Vapor bulb? coil
What is the brand name and number of your bulb? Wattage (if MVB)? Repti Sun 10.0
How old is your UVB bulb? Coming up on 6 months
How close can your dragon get to the UVB? Within 10"
Do you use a separate basking bulb? What kind and what is the wattage? Is it a white or colored bulb? Regular 100 watt on dimmer
What are the basking temps? 102
What is the cool side temp? 84
Do you take the temps with a stick on thermometer, a digital thermometer with a wire and a probe end or a temp gun? temp gun
What do you feed your dragon? Please be specific. Nothing now, been using Superworms b/c crickets gave my guy worms.
How often do you feed and what time do you feed (morning, afternoon, night)? Once everyother day I try
Is your dragon having regular bowel movements (poops)? Nope, not eating
Do you bath your dragon? How often? Once a week or everyother week
Do you mist your dragon or offer water other than in the bath? Used to mist greens but not eating
Have you gotten a vet check and fecal done? Just go treated for Toxidia and Pinworms
Does your dragon share an enclosure with another dragon? No

172 before treatment
146 now

 

[Mitsumike]

Bump....

 

[PuffMagic]

Do you use UVB lights? yes
If so, Is it a coil, compact, fluorescent tube, or Mercury Vapor bulb? coil
What is the brand name and number of your bulb? Wattage (if MVB)? Repti Sun 10.0


Coil are very bad for your dragon and this could be part of your problem. UVB helps to regulate things like energy and eating. You need a reptisun 10 tube uvb light. Since you are coming up to the 6mth mark anyway perfect time to buy a new bulb. I would shut you UVB off until then better to go without for a week then to have the coil bulb on. Below is the type of bulb you want for your dragon.

http://www.petmountain.com/product/reptile-fluorescent-bulbs/11442-504983/zoo-med-reptisun-10-0-uvb-bulb.html

when you can afford it I would suggest getting another fecal done. You do not have to bring the dragon in to the vet to have a fecal done....usually only costs $20 to have one done. Anything that comes out of the bum is good enough to test.

I personally was a little shocked to read that your dragon is in a rubbermaid - is it a clear rubbermaid?
Maybe some other people can add their 2 cents about this.

Hope this helps soon.

 

[fluffyslipper]

wots a rubbermaid? im from the u.k and not heared of it. x

 

[AHBD]

Your dragon may be dehydrated,[ and a dehydrated dragon often won't eat] If only bathed once every 7-14 days, especially after the meds he was on. Give him a bath every other day, [ stay with him of course] and dribble the water on his face to get him to drink. Another way to get him to drink is to use a spray bottle [ all of mine drink that way ] and spray the dragon GENTLY on the nose with a small stream. I've done that way for MANY years. If you are worried about humidity, just change the paper towels after spraying...and besides, you don't spray the entire tank, just the beardie's head.

 

[Mitsumike]

Do you use UVB lights? yes
If so, Is it a coil, compact, fluorescent tube, or Mercury Vapor bulb? coil
What is the brand name and number of your bulb? Wattage (if MVB)? Repti Sun 10.0


Coil are very bad for your dragon and this could be part of your problem. UVB helps to regulate things like energy and eating. You need a reptisun 10 tube uvb light. Since you are coming up to the 6mth mark anyway perfect time to buy a new bulb. I would shut you UVB off until then better to go without for a week then to have the coil bulb on. Below is the type of bulb you want for your dragon.

http://www.petmountain.com/product/reptile-fluorescent-bulbs/11442-504983/zoo-med-reptisun-10-0-uvb-bulb.html

when you can afford it I would suggest getting another fecal done. You do not have to bring the dragon in to the vet to have a fecal done....usually only costs $20 to have one done. Anything that comes out of the bum is good enough to test.

I personally was a little shocked to read that your dragon is in a rubbermaid - is it a clear rubbermaid?
Maybe some other people can add their 2 cents about this.

Hope this helps soon.

Sorry I have the compact not coil.

As for the rubbermaid it's about 4 L x 1.5 D x 1.5 H solid gray container. It's like 4 inches shorter than a 40 gallon breeder.

 

[Mitsumike]

Your dragon may be dehydrated,[ and a dehydrated dragon often won't eat] If only bathed once every 7-14 days, especially after the meds he was on. Give him a bath every other day, [ stay with him of course] and dribble the water on his face to get him to drink. Another way to get him to drink is to use a spray bottle [ all of mine drink that way ] and spray the dragon GENTLY on the nose with a small stream. I've done that way for MANY years. If you are worried about humidity, just change the paper towels after spraying...and besides, you don't spray the entire tank, just the beardie's head.

Ok I'll soak him every other day and see how it goes. Thanks

 

[PuffMagic]

One way I have got my beardie to drink is I put her in the bath tub and let the water continue to run; just a small stream mini waterfall. So it moves the water in the tub otherwise she cant see the water if it is not moving. She will dunk her head and drink for 30 seconds sometimes shorter then come up for air and go back down. It is actually quite cute.

Is the compact bulb like the tube bulb I sent you the link because I am pretty sure compact and coil are both bad for your dragon..I may be wrong about the compact however.

 

[Mitsumike]

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3577443&utm_source=googleproduct&utm_campaign=3577443&utm_medium=cse&mr:trackingCode=9FB08CFF-A748-DF11-9DA0-002219319097&mr:referralID=NA

This is what I have

 

[PuffMagic]

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3577443&utm_source=googleproduct&utm_campaign=3577443&utm_medium=cse&mr:trackingCode=9FB08CFF-A748-DF11-9DA0-002219319097&mr:referralID=NA

This is what I have

I am almost positive that UVB light is bad for them especially there eyes....do you notice your beardie closing his eyes at all or just one eye or do they look swollen?