Got my first Beardie!

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He's 5 months, around 13 inches long. I got a 40 gallon feeding tank, a rock for him to hide under, a water dish, and a food dish for now sadly. i gotta get him a wooden tree branch for him to climb, and a hammock and decorate it in a few weeks :) I so far have a UVB light, a heating lamp, and a day light with adjustable brightness.
 

tripleh3lix

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Zeusmybeardie":2vj66aht said:
Welcome I would love to see pics umm what UVB r u using
I see a lot of people using repti glo 10.0, but i dont have more money right now yet, it will be a few weeks to a month or two before i get everything for him. i got the majority of stuff for his cage. i got a Zilla Desert 50 UVB Fluorescent T5 Bulb, 24Length (says 17w 120v on the bulb though). i bought him off craigslist and he's pretty good for now. i also think he's shedding so i gotta give him a bath today. i got collard greens, mustard greens, blueberries, carrots, strawberries, crickets and (freeze dried crickets im gonna cut in half for him), meal worms, and some other little supplements for him to chow down on for now until i get everything. I know there are a lot of "particular" things on here that people seem to get ticked off by, but my cousin has had 4 bearded dragons and they are all good, ones 12, two are 14. they BOTH live on sand. I know it's not the best thing, mine is too for now until i can figure out what to get him. he's been living in it the majority of his life, he's 5 months. what do you guys suggest i make for a better and more comfortable ground for him? anything i can put down? i need lots of tips. also the temps aren't right on the petco thermo i have i read on here as they are pretty inaccurate. i literally set it down next to the beardie and all around the area he stays, its about 102-105, (praying it's higher). i have another UVB clip on lamp should I use it as a third light (2nd heat source)?
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bltkpo

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Hi and welcome! Your beardie is a cutie. You say he is 5 months old? He's huge for that age! Looks closer to a year or so :p

I feel bad when people jump down new peoples throats all because they've done some things wrong. We're hear to help one another provide the best care we can for these animals, but if someone disagrees with your opinion it's best to let it go. Ego is huge it seems.

None the less there are suggestions people will give you. The Reptisun by ZooMed is the most recommended light. Don't feel bad if you do not have one - it took me 6 months to finally locate a supplier in my city. They are very hard to come by here in Canada. Though if you are in the states, you shouldn't have much trouble. The light itself ranges at the $30 - $40 range. And in the case of any light should be replaced every 6 months. You can acquire a cheap fixture for it at walmart. Apparently this is an under-the-counter product for like $10. I am not totally up to snuff on all the lights - but when we got bindy we had a coil bulb, which can be harmful to their eyes. We then acquired an MVB bulb, which provided heat and UVB. It was a neat little bulb, but to appease everyone, I managed to find a source for the ReptiSuns.

Another thing to remember is that feeding an the appropriate amount of veg-bug ratio. Under a year they will be mostly taking in live feeders. It's suggested to have a varied diet if you can. Look into getting some hornworms, silkworms, butterworms or ever superworms. It's been said that meal worms are dangerous for beardies. Because they have a hard to digest exo-skeleton, they can clog up a beardies digestive tract, causing impaction. It's just a precaution. Better to be safe than sorry. None the less, always offer those veg. You seem to have great variety all ready! Always offer it to your beardie fresh, so he gets used to the idea of eating it. (Babies/Juvies typically wont bother with it. But none the less, it should be there).

And yes, sand is viewed quite negatively on this site. But with reasoning I can see more cons than pros. It's not very clean, hard to clean, hard to keep sanitary, and just messy. We found that slate, and tile work great for our tank! We take it out once a week to clean it, assuring no spread of germs. The tile/slate also keeps nails nicely filed so you do not have to clip as often. Another pro to tile - Bindy was sick last month, and in order to keep the germs from spreading, we had to take out the pieces of tile he pooed on to clean, disinfect and return to his tank almost immediately. I couldn't imagine keeping his Coccidia count down if he had been living on sand. We probably would have had a sick little beardie. I know a lot of people recommend non-adhesive shelf liner or repti-carpet as well. The latter seems to have the same problem as sand - hard to clean, and hard to keep clean.

If you are worried about your beardies 'comfort' level you can certainly put towels, or blankets in his tank. We bought some fleece from a local store for Bindy. We snuggle him in it, and he sleeps on it all the time. If/when it's dirty, it goes in the wash and I grab another piece. Otherwise he runs all over his tank on his tile and slate getting his exercise :p

102-105 is actually a pretty decent tank temp on the hot side. You do not want to go much over 110, and in order to start digesting food properly, the temps should be around the 100 mark. Your temps seems pretty darn good :)

Actually, this thread has a super awesome lighting set up explained. I studied this thread daily to assess Bindy's tank before I finally settled on his current situation.

I hope I was able to give you some helpful tips! Take care, and good luck :)
 

tripleh3lix

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bltkpo":1buca684 said:
Hi and welcome! Your beardie is a cutie. You say he is 5 months old? He's huge for that age! Looks closer to a year or so :p

I feel bad when people jump down new peoples throats all because they've done some things wrong. We're hear to help one another provide the best care we can for these animals, but if someone disagrees with your opinion it's best to let it go. Ego is huge it seems.

None the less there are suggestions people will give you. The Reptisun by ZooMed is the most recommended light. Don't feel bad if you do not have one - it took me 6 months to finally locate a supplier in my city. They are very hard to come by here in Canada. Though if you are in the states, you shouldn't have much trouble. The light itself ranges at the $30 - $40 range. And in the case of any light should be replaced every 6 months. You can acquire a cheap fixture for it at walmart. Apparently this is an under-the-counter product for like $10. I am not totally up to snuff on all the lights - but when we got bindy we had a coil bulb, which can be harmful to their eyes. We then acquired an MVB bulb, which provided heat and UVB. It was a neat little bulb, but to appease everyone, I managed to find a source for the ReptiSuns.

Another thing to remember is that feeding an the appropriate amount of veg-bug ratio. Under a year they will be mostly taking in live feeders. It's suggested to have a varied diet if you can. Look into getting some hornworms, silkworms, butterworms or ever superworms. It's been said that meal worms are dangerous for beardies. Because they have a hard to digest exo-skeleton, they can clog up a beardies digestive tract, causing impaction. It's just a precaution. Better to be safe than sorry. None the less, always offer those veg. You seem to have great variety all ready! Always offer it to your beardie fresh, so he gets used to the idea of eating it. (Babies/Juvies typically wont bother with it. But none the less, it should be there).

And yes, sand is viewed quite negatively on this site. But with reasoning I can see more cons than pros. It's not very clean, hard to clean, hard to keep sanitary, and just messy. We found that slate, and tile work great for our tank! We take it out once a week to clean it, assuring no spread of germs. The tile/slate also keeps nails nicely filed so you do not have to clip as often. Another pro to tile - Bindy was sick last month, and in order to keep the germs from spreading, we had to take out the pieces of tile he pooed on to clean, disinfect and return to his tank almost immediately. I couldn't imagine keeping his Coccidia count down if he had been living on sand. We probably would have had a sick little beardie. I know a lot of people recommend non-adhesive shelf liner or repti-carpet as well. The latter seems to have the same problem as sand - hard to clean, and hard to keep clean.

If you are worried about your beardies 'comfort' level you can certainly put towels, or blankets in his tank. We bought some fleece from a local store for Bindy. We snuggle him in it, and he sleeps on it all the time. If/when it's dirty, it goes in the wash and I grab another piece. Otherwise he runs all over his tank on his tile and slate getting his exercise :p

102-105 is actually a pretty decent tank temp on the hot side. You do not want to go much over 110, and in order to start digesting food properly, the temps should be around the 100 mark. Your temps seems pretty darn good :)

Actually, this thread has a super awesome lighting set up explained. I studied this thread daily to assess Bindy's tank before I finally settled on his current situation.

I hope I was able to give you some helpful tips! Take care, and good luck :)
Wow these lights are very expensive! And I will try to get something at the bottom of his tank in the next couple weeks, is there anything you recommend ? Maybe cardboard, or something cheap? I don't have very much money as the food is going to be around 20 a month and I don't work as im at home with health issues.
 

AllanonsWrath

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I would recommend reading through my care sheet (link in sig). I have listed a start up cost estimate and the most recommended substrates / foods etc in there. That should clear up alot of the care details for you. If you have any more questions we are always here to help though.

Papertowel is a good substrate if you need to stay fairly cheap.
 

tripleh3lix

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Zeusmybeardie":23kjoeap said:
Lanonium tile is really cheap and good of u r American the UVB isn't that bad compare to canada
sweet thanks guys i will try to purchase a better floor for him. i am wondering i just got him so i dont know his normal behavior quite yet, but why did he dig and go in his little rock cave? he's just kinda laying down in there.
 

diamc

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Actually, slate tiles are quite cheap if you go to a place like Lowe's or Home Depot. Some linoleum tiles are very slippery preventing good traction so it makes them hard to move around which can stress them out. You also have to make sure that you don't buy anything that has glue on the back like some linoleum does as that can cause toxic fumes when the basking light beats down on it. NON-adhesive shelf liner comes in rolls, the Duck brand is very cushy and is easy to clean as well as inexpensive. So, you have some good options.
 

tripleh3lix

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diamc":24xva8wi said:
Twobeardieguy":24xva8wi said:
:wave: :lol:
Thanks guys so much for the advice. I posted this in another forum but it's pretty empty and got no responses. Is there a reason why my beardie is not eating live crickets ? he loves mealworms as a treat, and i've only had him a few days so haven't gotten him a chance to give him crickets. he normally eats the dried foods ( i soak them in water) that are gut loaded so he gets both nurtrients and water. he does however eat ALL of his greens, should i take them away until he eats his crickets?
 

bltkpo

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Greens are good for your beardie, you're lucky he is eager to eat them! But I think I am confused -

You say that your guy isn't eating his live crickets, but then you haven't had a chance to give him crickets?

I'd imagine live feeders attract more attention than freeze dried ones; or any not-alive food for that matter. I was at first going to say he has relocation stress, but if he is eating everything else, maybe that's not the case. Are you feeding him in his tank, or in a separate rubbermaid? Maybe he feels overwhelmed chasing this crickets all around his tank? Perhaps concentrating them in a rubbermade or something else, and feeding him in that may help him along?

Just remember - as beardies grow their diets should change. Babies required a lot more live feeders than adults. In some cases, people are fortunate enough to have young beardies LOVE their salads. As long as he is eating (and is out of that crucial growing stage) I wouldn't worry. Keep offering both salads, and crickets and hopefully he eventually takes. Maybe he doesn't prefer crickets? Other options to feed are reptiworms, hornworms, silkworms, or dubia roaches (though, if you are Canadian or living in certain states, you might find these hard to find).Superworms are addictive, and I know some people do not like them as a staple feeder. Maybe your beardie just seems some spice and variety in what he eats?

Good luck!
 
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