Fully red urate, mucus covered poo - please help!

[J4ckdaw-]

It may not look it from the picture but this urate is deep red, not a white spot in sight. The poo is covered in mucus, though it isn’t very visible in the picture. I’m worried he’s caught parasites. Again. He was treated and came back with a clean pallet but did they never really go away? Did he get more?

Some background information to support my point: his diet consists of 50/50 between live and veg, usually two salads daily (kale, collards, butternut squash) with 30 crickets (calcium +D3 5/7 times a week, multivitamin 2/7 days a week) and 30 BSFL (undusted).

He hasn’t eaten anything red recently, his feeders are no longer fed the orange cricket diet. His enclosure is spot cleaned daily with a 50/50 solution of water and vinegar and deep cleaned monthly. Poo is cleaned immediately after/once I get home from work.

Thanks,

 

[J4ckdaw-]

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It may not look it from the picture but this urate is deep red, not a white spot in sight. The poo is covered in mucus, though it isn’t very visible in the picture. I’m worried he’s caught parasites. Again. He was treated and came back with a clean pallet but did they never really go away? Did he get more?

Some background information to support my point: his diet consists of 50/50 between live and veg, usually two salads daily (kale, collards, butternut squash) with 30 crickets (calcium +D3 5/7 times a week, multivitamin 2/7 days a week) and 30 BSFL (undusted).

He hasn’t eaten anything red recently, his feeders are no longer fed the orange cricket diet. His enclosure is spot cleaned daily with a 50/50 solution of water and vinegar and deep cleaned monthly. Poo is cleaned immediately after/once I get home from work.

Thanks,

This was his poop 7 days ago:

 

[KarrieRee]

How old is the dragon?

 

[J4ckdaw-]

6 1/2 months old, 275 grams and 18”

Here is a picture:

 

[KarrieRee]

6 1/2 months old, 275 grams and 18”

Here is a picture:
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Take another fecal in was another one done after he came off the meds the first time to clear him? I am gonna have Tracie and AHBD take a look at this
@AHBD
@Drache613

 

[J4ckdaw-]

Take another fecal in was another one done after he came off the meds the first time to clear him? I am gonna have Tracie and AHBD take a look at this
@AHBD
@Drache613

Thank you, Im taking him in for a fecal very soon. He came off meds on June 3rd.

 

[KarrieRee]

Thank you, Im taking him in for a fecal very soon. He came off meds on June 3rd.

NO enemas!!!!!!!!!! Take the fecal in w/ you or I would drop it off --- but NO enemas!!

 

[J4ckdaw-]

NO enemas!!!!!!!!!! Take the fecal in w/ you or I would drop it off --- but NO enemas!!

I promise, I know not to allow enemas! He usually poops mid-day when I am not home but I’ll take a day off of work to pick it up fresh.

 

[KarrieRee]

I promise, I know not to allow enemas! He usually poops mid-day when I am not home but I’ll take a day off of work to pick it up fresh.

All they need is a 24 hr sample

 

[J4ckdaw-]

All they need is a 24 hr sample

Alright

 

[AHBD]

They can have a colored urate from time to time, other than that it looks within the normal range of what to expect. It IS possible that he has parasites but even so the poo can look totally normal or somewhat off.
His poo from 7 days ago looks like he eats a little too much veggie's, I think you said 2 salads a day ? Also the bsfl coming through without being digested is common, especially for larger dragons, and when that happens they don't get any nutrition from them. Try to switch to a better feeder insect like dubia, crickets, silkworms.

 

[J4ckdaw-]

All they need is a 24 hr sample

This was his poop from today

 

[J4ckdaw-]

They can have a colored urate from time to time, other than that it looks within the normal range of what to expect. It IS possible that he has parasites but even so the poo can look totally normal or somewhat off.
His poo from 7 days ago looks like he eats a little too much veggie's, I think you said 2 salads a day ? Also the bsfl coming through without being digested is common, especially for larger dragons, and when that happens they don't get any nutrition from them. Try to switch to a better feeder insect like dubia, crickets, silkworms.

His urates have not been fully white ever since his first bought of parasites began, usually it is two smaller salads or one big salad a day. BSFL aren’t his only staple, crickets are fed daily. Also, it is only the skin left behind, everything inside the larvae is digested.

 

[AHBD]

O.K, hope everything turns out alright. As for the bsfl, it states right on the website that it's not uncommon for them to pass right through the digestive tract whole and even alive. They suggest pricking them open with a pin, so maybe that's what you do but I wouldn't bother with them if my beardie couldn't digest them.

 

[J4ckdaw-]

O.K, hope everything turns out alright. As for the bsfl, it states right on the website that it's not uncommon for them to pass right through the digestive tract whole and even alive. They suggest pricking them open with a pin, so maybe that's what you do but I wouldn't bother with them if my beardie couldn't digest them.

Alright! That is good to know, I actually serve them in a dish that they keep squirming out of so that could solve my problem! I had no idea they could pass alive- that’s crazy, must be pretty uncomfortable I’d imagine.