Flopping around in bath two months old

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Xandie

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Hi,

New beardie owner here. My little one's name is Kong, and he started showing neurological symptoms about a week ago. He has been to a vet I found on here as of 3 days ago. I have had him for about 1 month, he is 8 weeks old, and according to the vet 7 grams (which is underweight by a lot apparently). His symptoms came on very quickly he was fine last Thursday and by Friday during bath time, he had his first episode of stargazing and flipping and rolling. Since then he has gotten progressively worse. My setup is a 20 gallon long 30"x12"x12" with a 24" T8 Reptisun 10.0 ho attached underneath the tank mesh lid, and a 72-watt basking lamp on a dimmer. He has three digital thermometers in the enclosure that monitor his basking temp, his cold side, and his warm side, plus an IR laser thermometer to detect surface temp of basking spot. The temps are cool side 80 degrees, warm side 90 degrees, basking ambient temp is around 100 degrees, and basking surface temp is a big area made of wood, so it ranges from 104 to 112 degrees. The vet said he has a ton of coccidia and Oxyurides and has us giving him meds for that while the ADV test is being processed. We can get him to eat if we open his mouth and put a worm in or some baby food he will then chew it up and swallow himself. He is incapable of eating himself as his neuro issues are so bad that he misses when he tries though he hasn't even tried since yesterday. I'm just wondering if you guys have any thoughts as the information I have found here has been invaluable so far. At this point, he is eating a little chicken and turkey baby food along with his meds daily and a phoenix worm or two if we can manage. phoenix worms have been his staple since we got him with a few crickets here and there though he really is not a fan. I also offer a little collard greens on the days before he got sick though he rarely ate any of it. Thank you for any advice you may have ahead of time. Below is a picture of him before he got sick and of his setup. This was only a temp setup as I am in the process of building a 4x2x2 and hoping hell be alive to use it.
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AHBD

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Hi there, I'm so sorry about your baby. :( The symptoms are really severe so it does sound like ADV. I would avoid baths unless he gets dirty from poo . Just add a tiny bit of extra water to the syringe meals. I don't know if anyything else can help unless the vet has some suggestions. A few beardies recover to a degree and live for years but it's really hard on babies. Just do your best and see what happens.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

Bless him. I agree, it sounds like symptoms of adeno. So many do seem to have it & not all have
severe symptoms but when little ones are affected by it they can be particularly bad.
There isn't a chance that he ingested anything toxic is there?
What supplements are you giving him currently? Just do your best, it is hard when they do have a
lot of issues. You can get some bee pollen to help boost his appetite & immune system. Are you
able to keep him warmer overnight, between 75-80, to help boost his system?
He is a little cutie, absolutely. If you would like to get him tested, let me know. I can help get you
started on the process, which is very affordable.
Let us know how he is doing.

Tracie
 

Xandie

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He is already being tested by vet the results are just slow due to covid. Says it could be two weeks, his appointment was last Thursday. We actually thought he had died yesterday totally limp, black beard, not moving when I flipped him over, but I had read about them playing dead or just going into a semi dead state so I put him in a small box by work space in a warm room and checked on him every hour or so. The second time I checked he was just starting at me like psych. It was so weird and my son was astounded. He is 13 this week and it was his early bday present so he’s being a little trooper but he says he knows he probably won’t make it and hopes he’s not suffering. My question is the vet mentioned putting him down if it seems like he is suffering. I don’t know how to tell if it’s gotten to that point. It’s more obvious with dogs and cats so I’m ata loss on that one.

Thanks again guys
 

Xandie

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Sigh now it seems like he may have an RI no mucus signs but is taking very deep breaths that are every few open mouthed. Is there anything I can do to help with his breathing till tomorrow when I can call the vet. Thanks
 

AHBD

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Poor little guy, he's in critical condition. Nothing you can do except to keep his tank a few degrees warmer both during the day as well as night. Night temp. should be around 78-82. Hope for the best be be aware that he may not make it.
 

Xandie

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Sadly Kong passed away this evening. My son made him a casket and decorated it along with a little headstone and we will bury him tomorrow. Thank you all for the great advice on this forum and when we get a new little one I will be back.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

I am so sorry you lost your little Kong, that is awful. :cry:
He was very critical when you got him. I know how terrible of a feeling it is.

My condolences!

Tracie
 

Xandie

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So I’m disassembling his setup today and want to go ahead and clean it all like he had adv in case the test comes back positive. I’m throwing his stuff from inside the tank away accept the thermometers. How do you recommend cleaning the tank before I store it some said soaking in bleach but what ratio and for how long? Thanks again
 
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