Fecal test with 2 parasites--Looking for Tracie

[Ziggy17]

I sent in a fecal test (because i have never had one done one on Ziggy before) a few days ago and I received results today (vet said he has 2 parasites) pasted below. What meds should the vet be prescribing so i am ready when i call her!

LAB ID: 4601685916 ORDER ID: 113710948 COLLECTION DATE: 8/25/18 DATE OF RECEIPT: 8/26/18 DATE OF RESULT: 8/28/18
IDEXX Services: SAMPLE/TEST INFO NEEDED, Fecal Ova and Parasites by Zinc Sulfate Centrifugation (3 or More)
Parasitology
8/26/18 (Order Received) 8/28/18 2:17 AM (Last Updated)
TEST RESULT
Ova & Parasites - Zinc Sulfate Centrifugation
Oxyurid (Pinworm) ova present, many (>30) Isospora sp. oocysts present, few (3-10) In cases of acute or chronic diarrhea in addition to a fecal flotation and antigen testing for ova and parasites consider testing for viral, bacterial and protozoal infectious agents using RealPCR (canine diarrhea panel: test code 2625; feline diarrhea panel: test code 2627).
Other
8/26/18 (Order Received) 8/28/18 2:17 AM (Last Updated)
TEST RESULT
SAMPLE / TEST INFO NEEDED
We are unable to perform the test requested on the sample received. Please call Reference Laboratory Customer Support at 1-888-433-9987 for information regarding sample type and how to resubmit. Thank you.
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Some background:
I got Ziggy in January of 2018- i was told he was around 12 weeks making in around 9-10 months now. He was 20g when i got him he was 439g yesterday and a little over 18 inches. In the past month or so he has slowed down. Seemed more lethargic didn't want to eat as much, i thought it was that he was getting older. He also has had some issues recently with shedding his tail aka it was taking a really long time and the shed was really thick. I keep very close track of his weight, poops, how much he eats, how often i bath him etc. etc. HE is definitely a HE....a few months back he got real friendly with his bed....which makes me think he many be older than i know.

He is in a 40g breeder with green reptile carpet
He has a 36 inch Zoo Med 26062 Reptisun 10.0 T5-Ho Uvb 39W Fluorescent Lamp on top of his tank (is outside his screen which is not a tight mesh..been thinking about finding a way to mount it inside.
His basking spot is between 100-105
Cool side is between 85-90
He gets a bath every two or three days
He eats dubia roaches as his main live feeder (dusted m-f with calcium with D3 and Saturday with multivitamin)
Lately he has been eating 5-10 every other day but has refused them for the past 4 days :'(
He did eat crickets for the first 5 months with me
I do not feed anything bigger than the space between his eyes
He poops every three days or so, if he does not i get him to swim in the bath and he will go soon after--- if this does not work i will give some prune baby food
if he does not want to drink for me i will give him butternut squash baby food
His salad consists of mustard or collard greens, Butternut squash, yellow squash, occasional fruits (blueberries, watermelon, strawberries, raspberries etc.), and occasionally a red or yellow pepper
He does not eat the salad usually on his own but i can hand feed him some usually in the morning

I hope i included everything that is important...please help me prepare for his meds! I also know i probably need to get some probiotics in anticipation---please let me know what probiotics i need and where to buy!

One last note- i live in a small college town so i am not sure how much i trust this vet which is why i really need your help!

Thank you so much!

 

[AHBD]

Hi there, I'm sure Tracie will chime in later but to get the ball rolling you can order the coccidia meds. right online, Tracie would recommend this same med. It may be different than what the vet would prescribe but it works more quickly than any other med.

http://www.beardeddragon.co/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=478
It comes with dosing instructions.

For the oxyurid [ common name is pinworms ] the vet will give to fenbendazole [ aka Panacur ] to treat that.


How is he doing , does he have diarrhea , is he eating well ?

 

[Ziggy17]

He had unformed stools maybe three times in a row and then on Saturday had a nicely formed poop (which i took to the vet because i was worried).

Unfortunately, he hasn't been eating DR the past 3-4 days which is longest he has ever gone. Before this little stretch he was eating every other day (5-10 DR), which is less than he would normally eat but i think i just thought his slowing in appetite was his age...i should have gotten a fecal to the vet sooner . I have been able to get him to eat some veggies in the mornings. Strangely, he has been gaining weight the last few days ( i weight him every day- he has not LOST weight, fingers crossed i am not jinxing myself!). I also have been bathing him everyday because of this shed that is almost completely off his tail. He also has been shedding his face ANOTHER reason i was thinking the loss of appetite wasn't too concerning.

I will get that ordered today after i talk to the vet ( i am going to make sure she doesn't have this in house before i order!).

 

[AHBD]

O.K., a lot of vets will recommend Albon, but that is a very harsh med. and must be given for a longer time, sometimes 10-14 days. The toltrazuril generally works in 2-3 days, big difference ! So if your vet says " Albon ", just order the toltrazuril from the link I gave you if you feel comfortable doing so.

 

[Ziggy17]

Also @AHBD for a beardie weighing 439g how many mls will i need of the Liquid Toltrazuril Coccidiocide 5%? And do you recommend any of the flavors specifically? I know i am going to have to force this so he gets all of the dose (!! stressful for both him and I!!).

Thank you SO much for replying, i really appreciate any help!

From the website:
Dosage is .04 mL per 100g of body weight, so 1mL is 5 doses for a 500g reptile or 10 doses for a 250g reptile

sooo.. 2mL will be plenty!! he would need .16-.18mL per dose ( two doses right?)

 

[Ziggy17]

Does anyone know if the probiotic power on the reptilesupplies.com is a good choice? I am planning to order it at the same time i order my toltrazuril.

Also, I've read it is good to up the tank temps to 80 during the night when they are sick. It is around 74 in my apartment at night so should i look into getting a tank heater?

Thanks!

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

I completely agree, the Albon is too harsh and not nearly as effective as toltrazuril. It is a specific anti-coccidial so it works in just a few doses. It looks like there were a lot which would be why he is having diarrhea and lack of appetite.
The pinworms were not bad so you probably don't need to treat them.
Which probiotics powder are you looking at? I think at this point he could use some GI help right now. Poor guy!
Has the vet recommended meds yet?
The Temps of 74 overnight is fine, but you could use a ceramic heat emitter to bump it to 80 overnight if you wanted to. Keep him hydrated, too.
The meds should be dosed, but I can help with dosing if you need. I am going to send a pm to you.
I hope he starts doing better.

Tracie

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

Yes, the pinworms are higher than the coccidia, I mistyped. I am on my phone so that doesn't help matters. LOL
I am not used to the view.
Are you going to treat for both or just one?

Tracie

 

[Ziggy17]

Should i treat for both? this is my first experience with parasites

 

[Ziggy17]

Heard back from my vet:

"yes fenbendazole and sulfadimetoxine respectively"

The first is panacur and the second is albon, right? So, I will order the coccidia meds online and get the panacur from her so i can get it started ASAP.

 

[AHBD]

Yes, that's correct.

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

That's great the vet got back with you so quickly. How is your boy doing tonight?
I'll get your order sent out on Wednesday for you.
I hope he starts feeling better soon!

Tracie

 

[Ziggy17]

Thank you, Tracie!

He seems very tired, lethargic. I offered DR a few times last night, he seemed to have a little interest, but didn't eat any. I was able to get some butternut squash baby food mixed with calcium into him (Between 0.5-1ml). Then I gave him a bath while I started cleaning his tank and accessories. He pooped in the bath (went from 439g to 425g), stool was partially formed, mostly unformed.

He is such a Mama's boy, he will cling to me (loves to bury himself in my hair), never blackbeards, and is so patient when I have to do things like syringe feed. I ordered panacur online but will hopefully be able to get it from my vet sooner so I can get things started asap. I also ordered the coccidia meds, probiotics, bee pollen, coccidia cleaner, ceramic heat emitter, some new accessories.

Thanks, everyone! I have always used beardeddragon.org as a silent bystander, but it sure is amazing there is community out there willing to help when your beloved family member gets sick.

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

How are things today? I got your meds sent out so hopefully you will get them by the weekend.
It is Labor day weekend so no mail on monday.
That is so cool he loves sitting & sleeping on you. They get so attached! LOL It sounds like he is
such a good boy. He knows you are just trying to help with feeding him via syringe. The squash
& calcium will work.
I hope he basks for the day! Keep us posted on him.

Tracie

 

[Ziggy17]

He seems a bit better today. I made a slurrie and got him to eat about 1.5-2 mls of that last night. He ate some veggie this morning and basked. I went home in the middle of the day to check on him. He was on the cool side of the tank, laying down. I got him up and tried with some dubias, he ate two good sized ones! Hooray! Then he was basking for the past few hours. He is back up to 431g as of this afternoon. The meds should be here Saturday (yay!), going to just do the Panacur first, see how he does with that and if he seems to improve and a follow-up fecal looks okay, I probably will let him deal with the low amounts of coccidia. But I do have the toltrazuril on hand just in case.