slantedii":e2958 said:
This thread has gone astray...its almost like saying feeders are treated inhumanely when we feed them alive to bearded dragons...umm, they aren't human, so duh! lol. The point is, that the dude totally killed the lizard when it was unnecessary. I think it is awesome when my dragon chomps on roaches, crickets, and (once) a pinkie, but that is necessary for my dragon.
That is true he killed the lizard for no reason. Now if he had one of those small green snakes that eat small lizards and bugs that would be justified. Some animals need to eat other things to survive when that is the case live feeders are needed other wise they are not needed.
I have some of my lizards trained not to eat stuff alive. I have a water dragon where for him to eat the bug I have to kill it first. Since I have not feed him anything live even the fresh feeders I do buy are dead by the time they get to him. I have found doing so has made my water dragon real tame. He was not tame when I would feed him insects alive. He would tear you're hands to shreads with his claws when you would pick him up.
Now my issue is when I pick him up he clings to me and I have trouble putting him back in his cage. I put fish in his pond because I had not to much worry about him eating them but I still used feeder fish just in case. Well those are lucky feeder fish they were never eaten and they have gotten to over 6 inches each.
But even so some animals need live bugs. Even though I cut my beardies down on the live they still get some live. I have gotten them to eat more greens and bearded dragon food which I put over there salad as croutons. I also throw some freede dried and canned bugs and mix it into there salad as well. But even so the bugs were still at some point killed. Ok I laugh when my beardies run after them and go insane when I dump the crickets or meal worms or silk worms in there cage.
My bearded dragons go insane when they see a live bug. Who would not find it funny to see a beardie chassing after a cricket with his tongue hanging out try and not laugh. I have had friends come over with crickets to see my guys go nuts with them because it looks so funny.