Brumation? Parasites? I'm worried, contains "poop" pictures

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Sorry for the novel but I'm kinda freaking out. Thanks in advance.

So khaleesi is at my best guess about 8-9 months old. She's a female and over the past 2 weeks she has been showing all the signs of brumation. Lethargic, hiding in cave, appetite has been up and down either completely uninterested or really interested. 2 poops in the past week but none in the past couple days. Been reading up on it and it leads to her starting to brumate, roughly right age and right time of year. But today I woke up to find her pretty active and glass surfing but when I opened up her cage she purposely ignored me and wouldn't really look at me unless I got up real close.
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She then took about a minute to go to the bathroom and it was only the white stuff I believe it's urate and it had a strange brownish color in it and surrounded in mucus.
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She just sat there staring at me after so I went on the couch to see what she did when she didn't see me( I was watching tho) and she went to the bathroom again and it was really an unhealthy looking poop.
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I've never seen it like this and now I'm starting to freak out that she hasn't been acting normal because of brumation but because of parasites. It didn't smell horrible but in the bowl that I was going to give her with her dubia roaches I saw this little worm. I've looked into it and I found a whole bunch of different possibilities

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While I was looking it up on the computer she started to get really active again glass surfing but I don't want to give her dubia because now I'm nervous about these worms. Can someone help, is this normal? Is she brumating or parasites?
 

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Hi there...her behavior is pretty normal for a younger dragon going in to a semi brumation where they may hide for a bit, then come out, repeat. The poos can look odd at those times since the dragons aren't eating or basking as much, but that's not out of the normal looking range. The little white worm looks more like a maggot or a fresh shed larva of a dermestid beetle although I.m not sure they are that light but are mostly a tan/brown. Is the worm slightly fuzzy ?

It wouldn't hurt to have a fecal test done. And I thought I'd mention that she is young but very mature and unless she's caring eggs [ possibility ] you might cut back on her insect feedings, she is getting pretty overweight and it will be harmful for her especially as she gets older. It will affect her mobility, her joints and her heart liver + all vital organs. If she continues scratching around alot, set up a laybox just in case because her belly really is very big, like a gravid female.

But she is a beautiful girl , just a very big one. :)
 

JLollino

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AHBD":1jlv0win said:
Hi there...her behavior is pretty normal for a younger dragon going in to a semi brumation where they may hide for a bit, then come out, repeat. The poos can look odd at those times since the dragons aren't eating or basking as much, but that's not out of the normal looking range. The little white worm looks more like a maggot or a fresh shed larva of a dermestid beetle although I.m not sure they are that light but are mostly a tan/brown. Is the worm slightly fuzzy ?

It wouldn't hurt to have a fecal test done. And I thought I'd mention that she is young but very mature and unless she's caring eggs [ possibility ] you might cut back on her insect feedings, she is getting pretty overweight and it will be harmful for her especially as she gets older. It will affect her mobility, her joints and her heart liver + all vital organs. If she continues scratching around alot, set up a laybox just in case because her belly really is very big, like a gravid female.

But she is a beautiful girl , just a very big one. :)

Thank you so much for replying so quickly, I'm glad that everything seems normal for a pre-brumation period. And as I got her at pets smart her age is pretty unknown. But about her weight, she has been looking very belly heavy for the past couple weeks and my girlfriend and I both noticed it. Fear of her becoming unhealthy and over weight I dropped her feeding to only once a day and over the past two weeks I am lucky if I get her to eat every 3 days. Her weight couldn't be from over eating as she barely does and her size has remained very close.
This is her a couple minutes ago
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Her last week

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And roughly 2 weeks ago sleeping

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As well her belly always seems to appear lumpy and she has been pretty moody over the past 3 weeks. Very unlike her normal self. If she is between minimum 8 months and I guess possibly 11-12 months old is it normal for her to be gravid and brumating at the same time?
 

AHBD

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She could be carrying eggs, if you wanted to get an X-ray it would show eggs....if she's not gravid she may just have been an extremely good eater and packed on the weight. Sometimes it takes a while for the actual weight gain to stop even if the eating slows down.
 
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