Blood in stool related to too many greens?

[flyingpenguin42]

Hi, my beardie Fealoke has been having a bit of blood in his stool for the last week or week and a half, on and off. This happened when he was younger, and I took him to the Vet. They gave him some appetite stimulant and de-worming medication, and told me that I was probably giving him too many greens, and that giving him a bit of canned pumpkin (which I did based on what I read here) might be too much for him. She thought that he would have trouble digesting all the fiber, which might be irritating his stomach and resulting in the blood. I started giving him only a few nibbles of alfalfa which I am growing for him, and he was fine.

It's been about a month, and we moved to a new place. He has started passing blood again. I thought it might be that his light cycle was off (his timer was turning his light on at about 5:45 in the morning, and shutting it off at 8:00, so I am now turning his lights on at about 6:45, lights off at 8:00 PM, and giving him about an hour to warm up before giving crickets. His basking temps on his rock had been over 110, so I lowered his temps to about 105-107.

Yesterday we moved him to a bigger viv (from 22 gallons to 45) and he had blood in his stool this morning.

I am wondering if he is not spending enough time basking and digesting his food, or if there could be something else wrong? I don't have a lot of money to spend at the vet (the last visit cost about $100),
so I wonder if anyone has any suggestions?
Has anyone else experienced too much salad leading to blood?

The vet also recommended giving him as much of a variety of feeders as possible. I got him some superworms, but they were pretty big, and I think were causing him trouble. I have roaches which he will sometimes eat, and an order of phoenix worms and silk worms on the way.

Here is his setup:
He has two hides, one under a 75 Wat flood light, temps ranging from 105-107 (it varies on different parts of his hide). His other hide is under a sylvania Halogen energy saver flood, 1070 Lumens, temps about 102. I am using a Nubee Infrared Thermometer to take the temps. He has a reptisun 10.0 18" UVB tube under a white hood over his hammock, and now that it is summer, I try to take him outside for at least 15 min. of real sunlight every day. He is on tiles, and where there are no tiles, non-stick shelf liner. He has never had a non-solid substrate. He eats an average of 24 medium to large crickets/ day, dusted frequently with Rep-cal calcium with vit.d3 and reptcal herptivite Multivitamins.

Fealoke loves his greens, and tries to eat my green nail polish. He also tries to eat the white tags on washcloths, and I had to remove his blue washcloth from his viv because he was trying to eat it. He also tries to eat the glass, the tile on his viv, and his tile, and his hide.

Petco did not tell me how old he was when I got him, but I have had him for 4 months, and he is 17.5' long nose to tail, and weights about 9.5 oz. He has been shedding, but I am not sure that that would impact his stools?

Here a some pictures- I need to make his big home more friendly, it is a work in progress!

So the question is... what am I doing wrong? Do we need to visit the vet, or wait a few more days to see if he settles down?

Thank you,
-Ellie and Fealoke

 

[AHBD]

Hi Ellie.....Fealoke looks pretty good as well as his set up. Greens will certainly not cause blood in stool....do you have another vet you can go to, because that reasoning was pulled out of the air. Did the vet look at a fecal sample before prescribing the parasite meds ? Because there are different parasites and differing meds. depending on what your beardie has. If there was not a fecal test to diagnose the problem, I would strongly suggest you find a different vet. It's parasite [ among a few things ] that cause blood in the stool, or at times insects that are too large along with dehydration [ could cause straining to poo] but greens never cause bloody stool ! Give your poor beardie all the greens he wants, they are loaded with nutrition. The best ones are turnip, mustard, collard dandelion along with a variety of squash.

But please find a competent vet and have a fecal test done to check for possible coccidia, pinworms, roundworms, etc. Please update when you can.....Fealoke looks like a sweet boy with a healthy appetite.

 

[flyingpenguin42]

Thank you for your reply, I was a bit skeptical of that vet's answer. They did do a fecal, but never gave me the results. She said she gave a standard de-worming medication, and they are the vet that sees the Petco dragons. I think I will go to the other vet in our area, and start giving him the greens he enjoys so much! He doesn't seem to like basking as much as I think he should, do you think there is any chance that he is just not basking enough? He likes to run around his viv and hang out on his hammock or soapstone, or the cooler basking platform.