Beardie Attack!!

[nikipop]

Don't get me wrong '' breadie parents'' I'm not saying dragons are dumb by any means. All the ones i have been around are amazing animals, mine will do things from time to time that makes me wonder what is really going on in her head. She responds to my voice and she also will run up the glass when she sees me sometimes but the fact is reptiles have vary basic brains. They don't have emotions and desires or the need for contact with another living being. The reptile brain it's all wired to survive hence the dominating behavior. If they are dominant they get the best basking spot,the best food, and the best mate. These things is what make them tick. Everything they do has something to do with these things. It's survival of the fittest so to speak.
I know what i have said will be unpopular but it is are need as humans to put feelings into these amazing little critters to satisfied our maternal instinct. So ya'll don't chastise me to hard lol

I am still learning about bearded dragons myself, but I would just like to point out that all living creatures are hard wired for survival of the fittest. If you will notice though, even with humans the capacity to show love in greater or smaller amounts varies from person to person. So does the desire for contact with another being. I do not dispute that they are solitary creatures, that much has been proven. But who is to say that some captive, tame, dragons do not come to depend on their owners for affection just becuase they are solitary creatures in the wild? To the OP, from all I have read if it were me I would seperate them for my own piece of mind but that is my opinion. Obviously the choice is ultimately yours.

 

[AtlasStrike]

I think if you want to go with the cute and cuddly anthropomorphism, you can think of it like this: siblings sometimes get along wonderfully, sometimes they try to kill one another, but everything is better if everyone has their own bedroom and they can go in and close the door. I like having my own space, my snakes have their own tubs and Charlie gets his own viv and always will. A place for everything and everyone in their place.

Living in a double in college was bad enough. I can't imagine how a triple would have been.

 

[MarleyMoe]

My two were together when they were babies... they got separated by their previous owner after Moe (the bigger one) did this to Marley (the smaller one)...

You can't see she's also lost another toe on the other back foot too in the same attack!

Please please listen to what everyone else is advising you to do..... otherwise you may be coming home to a picture a lot worse than the one i've shared :|

 

[tgolden]

Thats a grate question nikki !!! Reptiles do not have the portion of a brain that cause one to want affection and promotes emotions.
~ tommie

 

[Dracosmommy]

Draco had 3 inches of tail bitten of by a dominant female. This was before I got him and he was a baby when it happened:

Please separate them! Excuse the sexy leg there. :lol:

 

[archaic37]

Thanks everyone. They have been separated from each other. Would a 40 gallon long split in half be sufficient enough for 2 10" beardies?

Living in a double in college was bad enough. I can't imagine how a triple would have been.

Im in a triple and its not bad at all actually. The beardies are not with me they are back at home.

 

[FranktheTank]

Thanks everyone. They have been separated from each other. Would a 40 gallon long split in half be sufficient enough for 2 10" beardies?
No it's not enough room. Each dragon needs at least their own 40g.

-Kaleen

 

[archaic37]

20g Long for each one of them? they are still quite small less then a foot or right at a foot.

 

[FranktheTank]

It's a temporary fix, but in the long run they will need at least a 40g of their own...

 

[archaic37]

What would be the maximum size a beardie can be in a 20g Long before they need a 40g?

 

[FranktheTank]

Well if you look at your beardie, and they look to big for their enclosure, if they can't move around comfortably, and if they're unhappy. I can't give you a maximum size, all beardies grow at different rates, and it's really about common sense. Would you want to be stuffed into a tiny space just because it's convenient for someone else?!

-Kaleen

 

[beardie parents]

Don't get me wrong '' breadie parents'' I'm not saying dragons are dumb by any means. All the ones i have been around are amazing animals, mine will do things from time to time that makes me wonder what is really going on in her head. She responds to my voice and she also will run up the glass when she sees me sometimes but the fact is reptiles have vary basic brains. They don't have emotions and desires or the need for contact with another living being. The reptile brain it's all wired to survive hence the dominating behavior. If they are dominant they get the best basking spot,the best food, and the best mate. These things is what make them tick. Everything they do has something to do with these things. It's survival of the fittest so to speak.
I know what i have said will be unpopular but it is are need as humans to put feelings into these amazing little critters to satisfied our maternal instinct. So ya'll don't chastise me to hard lol

I will try not to chastise you too hard. I'm sure you are right for some beardies but I remember Redrock would give us this sad look when she knew we were going out and leaving her home (usually an all day shopping trip) her look clearly said "I want to go with you". Goldie had this look last week that showed she wanted outside and was very depressed because she couldn't go outside. From our experience with beardies, all of ours have had a loving attitude with us. I can't really say about Sandstone because he disappeared about 4 months after we got her and we never saw her (him?) again so I really didn't know him too well. Goldie will insist that I hold her all evening after I've been at work all day, in spite of the fact that she's had her daddy's attention all day. She wants to sleep on me all night. She plays this game, when I go to put her in her bed she'll either pretend to be asleep and cling with one had or one claw to my shirt, or she'll wake up instantly and try to make me keep her on me, even tho she's been on me for several hours. All those have had such loving attitudes, especially Miss O, she really needed someone to love her and as soon as she realized we loved her, she responded with the most special love from any pet child we've ever had.

 

[tgolden]

I had mine in a 20 gal till she was about 71/2 or 8 '' long tail to snout. At that point she was starting to stress and bump her nose at the glass.
I would say to keep your dragon in the biggest encloser you can afford. You can get a 40 zilla critter cage with a sliding top for like $80 at your bigger pet stores.

 

[Dracosmommy]

I'm sorry, and no chastising here , but I really believe they have feelings and emotions. I can see it in Draco's eyes. I know when he's mad, happy, mischievious, funny, and any other emotion. I know he's a lizard and I understand our emotional need to think they have feeling and emotions but if say they did'nt then how do you explain them being funny or being mischievious. I'm nuts, I will freely admit it. :mrgreen: I had my budgie and he had a 200 word vocabulary and alot of the time he used it appropriately. His one favorite was he would try and bite you then he would say " I's bite you. Ouch Rocky, NO bites" I have never used the word I's. One time I was cleaning his cage and it had been longer than usual cause I was sick. I was just finishing when he looked around the cage and said flustered " it's about time". My sister use to scratch him on the head, she was the only one that could do it, and he didn't want her too. So in this mad tone he turned around to her and lunged to bite missing her and then said angerly " You's scared". When my sister told him no she wasn't scared, he laughed and said "Good" and then he walked off. NOBODY taught him to say these things. He called my mother a jerk (oops guess I can't use that word even if it isn't a swear word. j**k) one time. My point is I know beardies have small brains and all that but if they didn't have feelings and emotions wouldn't they just sit there like a bump on a log waiting for food and basking. :mrgreen: Just my thoughts I wanted to share.

 

[Germ]

Please read this for more information , I belong to a BC reptile club and this is something that was written up by a member there... its very informative

The answer to the Heading Question is a resounding NO!
This is a subject that I am quite familiar with personally, through my own experience, experience of personal acquaintances with these creatures & extensive research.

Bearded Dragons are a dominance oriented species, solitary creatures, this is Hard Wired into their character.

JFYI: Joanne, you will find this post on the subject 'Stickied' here in the Health section, also. :wink:
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Have a Good One.
Germain