Baby beardie always sleeping, eyes closed, won't eat.. HELP!

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Ashbear

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Hi I'm very new to this and a first time owner of a bearded dragon, so please no negative feedback. I bought my baby beardie about 3 weeks ago now at a reptile expo in Hilliard, Ohio. However since sunday evening she has not ate, has slept, and her stomach is sunk in (she looks flat). I've tried getting her to eat baby sweet potatoes food (I saw it on one of these posts). She has taken a couple teenie tiny bites. She won't open her eyes. All she has done is sleep. She has moved here and there a little. She is a citrus dragon but her color keeps getting darker and darker. She is in a 10g tank. She has both UV and Heat lamp. Temp ranges from about 90-105. I gave her a bath on monday in luke warm water to see if she would wake up but nothing. I've drizzled warm water on her, still nothing. She is still breathing very well. I don't know what to do!? Is this normal? I've read a lot since sunday and it seems like she is too young to be going through brumation. And right now, I don't have the expenses to take her to the vet. If i have to, I will! I know ive only had her for a couple of weeks but she is my baby and I need to her to be healthy and happy on my shoulder again :( please someone guide me.
 

Nelly234

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Hi :) I am a new baby bearded dragon owner and I had the same exact problem as you. The people on this website have been very helpful and I listened to their advice and see a difference so I will tell you what they told me. A 10 gallon tank is way too small, you cannot get the accurate temperatures in that small of a tank. You need at least a 40 gallon. You need a cool side in your tank, around 75-85 and the heated side 95-105. This is why its important to have a large tank, to get the right temperatures because without the right temperatures your baby won't have the energy to do anything and won't be able to digest her food correctly. I suggest you get a larger tank, get the temperatures hooked up and observe her, I think you will see a huge difference with these adjustments.
 

EllenD

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Well this is typically due to inadequate UVB lighting and temperature zones...They develop a Calcium deficiency very quickly without a strong, adequate UVB tube that is mounted correctly and within the correct distance from their Basking Spot, and they cannot function or digest any food at all unless they have a VERY SPECIFIC AND EXACT Temperature gradient within their tank, which is impossible to get in a 10 gallon tank. They are Desert Reptiles and need 13-14 hours every day of strong UVB light and a bright-white colored Basking Bulb right alongside it, both lights over the Hot Side of the tank, sharing the top of the Hot Side of the tank, and the bright-white colored Basking Bulb must be the correct wattage to put their Basking Spot Surface Temperature right between 105-110 degrees F exactly!

So lets start by posting some photos of the dragon, and then also of the entire tank showing your light set-up...Then you need to answer these questions exactly so that we can help you get the correct lights, thermometer, and diet...By the way, what live insects are you feeding her?

-What substrate do you have in the bottom of the tank?

-EXACTLY what UVB light do you have, meaning Brand, Wattage, and Type (is it a Compact, Coil, or long Tube)? If it's a long Tube, what strength is it (T8 or T5)? THIS INFORMATION IS PRINTED RIGHT ON THE LIGHT ITSELF...

-Do you have the UVB light sitting on top of a mesh lid or strapped underneath the mesh lid?
-How far away, in inches, is your UVB light from her basking spot/platform?

-What color of light does your Basking Bulb emit? What wattage is it?

-What type of Thermometer are you using to measure her 3 temperature zones (Stick-On, Digital Probe, or Gun)?
-What is the #1) Cool Side Air/Ambient Temperature, #2) Hot Side Air/Ambient Temperature, #3) Basking Spot SURFACE Temperature?

-What is her regular daily diet (what live insects do you feed her daily? What fresh greens and veggies)?
-How many days do you give her a Calcium powder? A Multivitamin powder?

She's most likely starting to suffer from a combination of a Calcium Deficiency and the start of MBD from a lack of UVB light, and then not being in the correct temperature zones causes all types of issues as well. You must be extremely specific with a Dragon's lights and temps, and how you have them set-up, because they are Desert Reptiles that are built to live under bright, natural, direct sunlight all day long, every day.

A vet may not be necessary as if you correct the equipment/issues they usually will bounce back pretty quickly, but you will probably need to return some things and spend money on a proper, long UVB tube and fixture at the very least...And realize that until they are a year old they eat tons and tons of live insects every single day, usually between 40-60 live insects every day, so most people order them in bulk online. And insects like mealworms and wax worms are not appropriate.

Once you answer the questions we can definitely help you out.
 

Ashbear

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Update: its been a few days, but she passed away on me :( I have another bearded baby in with her and he is completely fine. And has been. I've looked online before getting her and I have all the right lights and tabks. Temp stays around 95-100
 

Drache613

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Hello,

I am so sorry that your dragon passed away. :cry: Poor thing. At least he wasn't alone.
I hope that your new dragon does well with you. Feel free to post pictures of your new
dragon & setup if you would like in Photo Expressions.

Tracie
 
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