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Crx

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Na his skin feels fine, not rough like when shedding. Plus I bath both dragons at least twice a week so shouldn't have any issues shedding at all. There's no sign of shedding either from him :)
 

beardie4127

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Crx":1smm6ohg said:
Na his skin feels fine, not rough like when shedding. Plus I bath both dragons at least twice a week so shouldn't have any issues shedding at all. There's no sign of shedding either from him :)
Lol ok i didnt really think it would be possible and i dont know much (im 11) :D
 

Crx

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Hey I'm no expert either!! Only 2 months in myself roughly lol. They certainly do change moods slightly when shedding so theoretically your not wrong either lol ;)
 

shelley101

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Gave Peanut his first bath yesterday. Seemed ok if a bit bewildered! He didn't do much except walk from one end of the bath to the other a few times, am I supposed to pour water on him?, or just let him walk around for a little bit?
 

Crx

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shelley101":31eoq39u said:
Gave Peanut his first bath yesterday. Seemed ok if a bit bewildered! He didn't do much except walk from one end of the bath to the other a few times, am I supposed to pour water on him?, or just let him walk around for a little bit?

That's great!! Least he isn't freaking out!! When I bath my two (seperately of course) I always run water from my hand over their backs. I don't do their heads, but I always make sure the rest has had a good wash. Their bodies soak up water anyways but I like to make sure they've had a good dunk!!
 

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Crx":3cira5xn said:
shelley101":3cira5xn said:
Gave Peanut his first bath yesterday. Seemed ok if a bit bewildered! He didn't do much except walk from one end of the bath to the other a few times, am I supposed to pour water on him?, or just let him walk around for a little bit?

That's great!! Least he isn't freaking out!! When I bath my two (seperately of course) I always run water from my hand over their backs. I don't do their heads, but I always make sure the rest has had a good wash. Their bodies soak up water anyways but I like to make sure they've had a good dunk!!

Will be giving Peanut another bath tomorrow and will clean out his viv whilst he's in there. Does anybody know when you can start using sand in their viv. At the moment we are using newspaper, but the crickets keep running underneath the paper, so would like to use sand when we can. If so, what's the best sand to buy?
 

Crx

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shelley101":28ewtc2o said:
Will be giving Peanut another bath tomorrow and will clean out his viv whilst he's in there. Does anybody know when you can start using sand in their viv. At the moment we are using newspaper, but the crickets keep running underneath the paper, so would like to use sand when we can. If so, what's the best sand to buy?

I've always used calci-sand with mine since day 1. A lot of people advise against it, but I've never had any issues. Calci-sand is as it says on the tin, sand made from calcium, so if they eat it, it's processed and passed. But a lot of people will say it's a no go area, but personally I like it and have never had issues. Both dragons love to dig in it at night to make their bed, looks really cute :).

So the youngest been 3 months now 4.5, is still good on it :). Personal preference I suppose, I'd advise it, my specialist doesn't like it but says its still ok to use if I want to.

On a side note, spyro appears to be responding to his new treatment very well. We don't feed him till evening now and take him out to eat. I can now go in and stroke him a whole lot easier and he isn't running away so much. Still have major issues with picking up, but stroking is defo better!!
 

shelley101

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Crx":1h6lnfcs said:
shelley101":1h6lnfcs said:
Will be giving Peanut another bath tomorrow and will clean out his viv whilst he's in there. Does anybody know when you can start using sand in their viv. At the moment we are using newspaper, but the crickets keep running underneath the paper, so would like to use sand when we can. If so, what's the best sand to buy?

I've always used calci-sand with mine since day 1. A lot of people advise against it, but I've never had any issues. Calci-sand is as it says on the tin, sand made from calcium, so if they eat it, it's processed and passed. But a lot of people will say it's a no go area, but personally I like it and have never had issues. Both dragons love to dig in it at night to make their bed, looks really cute :).

So the youngest been 3 months now 4.5, is still good on it :). Personal preference I suppose, I'd advise it, my specialist doesn't like it but says its still ok to use if I want to.

On a side note, spyro appears to be responding to his new treatment very well. We don't feed him till evening now and take him out to eat. I can now go in and stroke him a whole lot easier and he isn't running away so much. Still have major issues with picking up, but stroking is defo better!!


Wow, that's good progress. Peanut is still running away, but you can put your hand in before he runs. he is fine once he has been picked up though and won't run away if you put your hand in with his crickets.
 

Grimleo

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Just a suggestion, but... I have a couple of fairly new dragons and both are extremely skittish. My littlest one is too small to do this with yet but when my Herc is frantically trying to get away from my hand I simply stop my hand for a while until he stops glass dancing and such. Then I move my hand towards him VERY slowly, as to not scare him again. He will eye my hand but he won't move unless I twitch or move too fast for his liking. If he will let me get my hand over to him I put my hand right in front of his nose to see if he will lick or smell it, and I keep it there for a minute or two. By then he isn't as afraid a lot of the time and I simply just put my middle and pointing finger under his neck and his chest, and *EDIT scoop him up from the front(slowly). I think the trick is just don't make him feel like you are attacking him. Move very slowly. Also, if I am moving my hand towards him and he backs away, I will back my hand away from him a bit further. I think this gives him the reassurance that I am not going over there to eat him. This actually works very well for me and it's been one week since I started doing this. Now I can reach my hand in his viv and move a bit faster every day, and he won't run away at all anymore. About an hour before bedtime, and 2 hours after I've last fed him I will pick him up and hold him until lights out time, and he will snuggle up in my hand or on my chest until he falls asleep. Last night was such a great night with him and it totally made my day because after about an hour in a half of holding him and watching tv with him I went to put him back in his cage. After I set him down after loosening his little hug around my finger, he jumped RIGHT back up onto my hand and snuggled in as quick as he could! It was adorable :D
He is only about 2 months old, around 9 inches long, and he was extremely temperamental when I got him! He would puff up and open his mouth if I moved was too fast, which was my first mistake. When I started going slower and slower, he would occasionally just eye my hand or run away. And like I explained, it progressively got better.
 

shelley101

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Grimleo":2ydmsiym said:
Just a suggestion, but... I have a couple of fairly new dragons and both are extremely skittish. My littlest one is too small to do this with yet but when my Herc is frantically trying to get away from my hand I simply stop my hand for a while until he stops glass dancing and such. Then I move my hand towards him VERY slowly, as to not scare him again. He will eye my hand but he won't move unless I twitch or move too fast for his liking. If he will let me get my hand over to him I put my hand right in front of his nose to see if he will lick or smell it, and I keep it there for a minute or two. By then he isn't as afraid a lot of the time and I simply just put my middle and pointing finger under his neck and his chest, and *EDIT scoop him up from the front(slowly). I think the trick is just don't make him feel like you are attacking him. Move very slowly. Also, if I am moving my hand towards him and he backs away, I will back my hand away from him a bit further. I think this gives him the reassurance that I am not going over there to eat him. This actually works very well for me and it's been one week since I started doing this. Now I can reach my hand in his viv and move a bit faster every day, and he won't run away at all anymore. About an hour before bedtime, and 2 hours after I've last fed him I will pick him up and hold him until lights out time, and he will snuggle up in my hand or on my chest until he falls asleep. Last night was such a great night with him and it totally made my day because after about an hour in a half of holding him and watching tv with him I went to put him back in his cage. After I set him down after loosening his little hug around my finger, he jumped RIGHT back up onto my hand and snuggled in as quick as he could! It was adorable :D
He is only about 2 months old, around 9 inches long, and he was extremely temperamental when I got him! He would puff up and open his mouth if I moved was too fast, which was my first mistake. When I started going slower and slower, he would occasionally just eye my hand or run away. And like I explained, it progressively got better.

Awww, that sounds so sweet. I am up to try anything so will give this a go.
 

Grimleo

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shelley101":2a84qkle said:
Grimleo":2a84qkle said:
Just a suggestion, but... I have a couple of fairly new dragons and both are extremely skittish. My littlest one is too small to do this with yet but when my Herc is frantically trying to get away from my hand I simply stop my hand for a while until he stops glass dancing and such. Then I move my hand towards him VERY slowly, as to not scare him again. He will eye my hand but he won't move unless I twitch or move too fast for his liking. If he will let me get my hand over to him I put my hand right in front of his nose to see if he will lick or smell it, and I keep it there for a minute or two. By then he isn't as afraid a lot of the time and I simply just put my middle and pointing finger under his neck and his chest, and *EDIT scoop him up from the front(slowly). I think the trick is just don't make him feel like you are attacking him. Move very slowly. Also, if I am moving my hand towards him and he backs away, I will back my hand away from him a bit further. I think this gives him the reassurance that I am not going over there to eat him. This actually works very well for me and it's been one week since I started doing this. Now I can reach my hand in his viv and move a bit faster every day, and he won't run away at all anymore. About an hour before bedtime, and 2 hours after I've last fed him I will pick him up and hold him until lights out time, and he will snuggle up in my hand or on my chest until he falls asleep. Last night was such a great night with him and it totally made my day because after about an hour in a half of holding him and watching tv with him I went to put him back in his cage. After I set him down after loosening his little hug around my finger, he jumped RIGHT back up onto my hand and snuggled in as quick as he could! It was adorable :D
He is only about 2 months old, around 9 inches long, and he was extremely temperamental when I got him! He would puff up and open his mouth if I moved was too fast, which was my first mistake. When I started going slower and slower, he would occasionally just eye my hand or run away. And like I explained, it progressively got better.

Awww, that sounds so sweet. I am up to try anything so will give this a go.

I really do hope it works for you as it did for me! :D
I have been going outside and playing with critters since I was a baby, no joke. I have always used this to get up close and pet wild critters like lizards and such. Though one false move can make him not trust you, possibly for a long time, building that trust and making them think that you are not there to hurt them is most important. EDIT* thought I would add that when people on here talk about patience, it really takes a lot of it. Sometimes they take a long time to begin to trust you. For instance, My Squeak still won't let me hold her, but if I move slow enough sometimes, I can get my finger to her chin and scratch it for a little while. :) Sometimes it starts with this, sometimes it starts with moving your hand a little bit closer to your BD each day before they run away from it.
 

Crx

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Thanks Corey, i'll definately give yoru way a try.

Heres a couple of pictures of him out. As you can see i'm no longer using gloves :)


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Grimleo

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Haha, yay. No more yellow yellow monsters xD He's probably proud he scared them away :D Did you have any less trouble getting him out?
 

Crx

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Lol god no, I wish but no. Still just as bad if not worse as I'm dodging the biting now as before I wouldn't be bothered with my magic yellow super gloves!!

Still I'll keep plodding. Got hissed at 3 times in a row before I had to grab him and hope for the best :). He ate well tonight though. Took 5 dusted crickets from the tweezers ( which are infact also yellow lol ) and loved it. Yet as soon as my hand went in ( ungloved ) to stroke him he then bit that the little sod!
 
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