7yr old dragon Chuck**pictures** and basking!! help :)

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mrsphate

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Also guys I'm really freaking out. maybe someone would be willing to save their email with me or chat of some sort. I saw a tiny red looked like a microscopic ant crawl on him. I researched it and apparently it can come from the crickets I purchased. I haven't seen any more, just the one I bathed him in warm water, still haven't seen it. Need to completely redo his cage now. I'm very stressed. Also he is all bones in his mid section...his skin just draggs and his legs resemble that of a frog.. they work, but appear broken..like jello. This poor guy. I just want to make him as peacful as I can for the rest of his life. But apparently I pissed him off yesterday with all of the pictures. because when I pick him up to day he gets a black beard :( *sigh* And I thought he liked me.
 

Kriechtier

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At this time I would give him some time to adjust to his new environment. If he is weak and sickly then the move and associated stress to a new home will make things worse. Try to create the the best temperature and light environment you can provide. For a few days keep handling to a bare minimum until he gains some strength. If there are parasites or little bugs on him deal with it when he is a bit stronger, in the meantime the occasional bath will help bringing relief and prevent dehydration.
Patience is key, remember his neglect most likely happened gradually and so will his recovery.
Best of luck to both you!
 

mrsphate

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Kriechtier":3r3eocdr said:
At this time I would give him some time to adjust to his new environment. If he is weak and sickly then the move and associated stress to a new home will make things worse. Try to create the the best temperature and light environment you can provide. For a few days keep handling to a bare minimum until he gains some strength. If there are parasites or little bugs on him deal with it when he is a bit stronger, in the meantime the occasional bath will help bringing relief and prevent dehydration.
Patience is key, remember his neglect most likely happened gradually and so will his recovery.
Best of luck to both you!

thank you. He feels so hard and rough. My husband has seen many dragons before and he thinks he is too dry. So we are bathing daily, Is he going to be fine a week until the uv lighting comes in? Will he die without it? I don't want to keep using the coil ones. Also he has got to be starving. people said with hold protein until he poops, and I will, but he isn't really eating anything else, 6 tiny pieces of green beans since monday. and 20 worms probably, which i know now he shouldn't have that kind of worms. I have looked over the care sheets and what not, but maybe you could tell me how you feed your dragon. Thank you.
 

Buddysfam

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Try to keep leafy veggies in his tank all the time, collard greens, kale and bok Choy are my guys favorites! You can also try super worms, not meal worms because they can "bung" them up pretty good, but super worms will give him protein and he doesn't have to run to get them.

He is probably scared and needs to get comfortable with his new home. Once he is comfortable, you'll probably see a totally different dragon!
 

mrsphate

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Buddysfam":3bixbw87 said:
Try to keep leafy veggies in his tank all the time, collard greens, kale and bok Choy are my guys favorites! You can also try super worms, not meal worms because they can "bung" them up pretty good, but super worms will give him protein and he doesn't have to run to get them.

He is probably scared and needs to get comfortable with his new home. Once he is comfortable, you'll probably see a totally different dragon!


Thank you, I have also heard they can eat crawlers, is this true? I'm wondering because I have daily access to them as they sell them across the street. Also he already moves more for me than the previous owner. I'm headed to the store going to get greens and saline for his eye.
 

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Hi. Is there any way you could take him outside for some natural sun? Until you get the uvb light. Mine like to sit in their own window with it open for hours. Anyway congrats on him.
 

AHBD

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Hi again....well, some of the pics are showing up now, and I can't tell exactly, is his eye swollen shut and stained ? Hopefully the bulb change will help. I have used unpasteurized honey as an antibacterial/antibiotic for a severe eye wound on a dragon and it healed it very quickly. Well, the good news is that he is thin, but he's not emaciated....you CAN feed him live food, just don't go overboard ! The fact that he had an appetite to eat 20 worms is a GREAT sign, so don't be too upset. Of course mealworms aren't the best ones, but it's still great news that he ate. And also if he drank in the bath, that's also great. A bath every other day now will be fine, he will be hydrated more quickly because he is drinking. After a week, you can drop it to twice a week, so that will be less stressful. As for the crickets, just try hand feeding him one at a time, he was overwhelmed by the sheer number and just having the stress from the move to be interested in them, plus he can't move fast enough. For the tiny red bug, if you see it again, keep some veg. oil near his tank and drip some on the bug if you see it again. It was probably a mite, and he may have had them already. They don't usually come in with crickets, I've ordered hundreds of 1,000's of cricks over 20 years + never ever had a mite. As for his UVB exposure, Destiny mentioned getting him outside, that would be good for 30 -40 minutes a day, but be sure it's not in a glass tank where temps. can be lethal. So keep the handling to a minimum, get some calcium in him, hydrate, live food like cricks or superworms, but only 4-5 large ones at a time. Nightcrawlers are O.K., but the stuff that they are sold in is questionable. Better to try the other insects, along with greens.
 

mrsphate

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AHBD":2wqnvonk said:
Hi again....well, some of the pics are showing up now, and I can't tell exactly, is his eye swollen shut and stained ? Hopefully the bulb change will help. I have used unpasteurized honey as an antibacterial/antibiotic for a severe eye wound on a dragon and it healed it very quickly. Well, the good news is that he is thin, but he's not emaciated....you CAN feed him live food, just don't go overboard ! The fact that he had an appetite to eat 20 worms is a GREAT sign, so don't be too upset. Of course mealworms aren't the best ones, but it's still great news that he ate. And also if he drank in the bath, that's also great. A bath every other day now will be fine, he will be hydrated more quickly because he is drinking. After a week, you can drop it to twice a week, so that will be less stressful. As for the crickets, just try hand feeding him one at a time, he was overwhelmed by the sheer number and just having the stress from the move to be interested in them, plus he can't move fast enough. For the tiny red bug, if you see it again, keep some veg. oil near his tank and drip some on the bug if you see it again. It was probably a mite, and he may have had them already. They don't usually come in with crickets, I've ordered hundreds of 1,000's of cricks over 20 years + never ever had a mite. As for his UVB exposure, Destiny mentioned getting him outside, that would be good for 30 -40 minutes a day, but be sure it's not in a glass tank where temps. can be lethal. So keep the handling to a minimum, get some calcium in him, hydrate, live food like cricks or superworms, but only 4-5 large ones at a time. Nightcrawlers are O.K., but the stuff that they are sold in is questionable. Better to try the other insects, along with greens.

Hi again! Thanks. the bug according to pictures on the internet was NOT a mite. it looked with a tiny red ant. barely could see it and only one. I cleaned his cage when we first got him. but i forgot to bake his wood stuff that was in there just used hot water and let it dry...but I had never seen this bug before the crickets, and the local crap pet store we have also sold me worms that were supposed to be refrigerated and most were dead because I bought them from the shelf and most turned to dead beetles :( anyway going to order his food online, our neighbors (hick town lol) all around us sell crawlers. so we thought we could feed him that until we could get orders to come in. also what length of food can he eat. they say size between his eyes, but crawlers are much longer...
 

mrsphate

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oh his eye. looks like a bump and it doesn't open vary far. at first it didn't open at all I got it really wet a few times. going now to buy wash for the eye. but it appears to be a hard lump on part of his eye socket part of him.


mrsphate":a8cf472m said:
AHBD":a8cf472m said:
Hi again....well, some of the pics are showing up now, and I can't tell exactly, is his eye swollen shut and stained ? Hopefully the bulb change will help. I have used unpasteurized honey as an antibacterial/antibiotic for a severe eye wound on a dragon and it healed it very quickly. Well, the good news is that he is thin, but he's not emaciated....you CAN feed him live food, just don't go overboard ! The fact that he had an appetite to eat 20 worms is a GREAT sign, so don't be too upset. Of course mealworms aren't the best ones, but it's still great news that he ate. And also if he drank in the bath, that's also great. A bath every other day now will be fine, he will be hydrated more quickly because he is drinking. After a week, you can drop it to twice a week, so that will be less stressful. As for the crickets, just try hand feeding him one at a time, he was overwhelmed by the sheer number and just having the stress from the move to be interested in them, plus he can't move fast enough. For the tiny red bug, if you see it again, keep some veg. oil near his tank and drip some on the bug if you see it again. It was probably a mite, and he may have had them already. They don't usually come in with crickets, I've ordered hundreds of 1,000's of cricks over 20 years + never ever had a mite. As for his UVB exposure, Destiny mentioned getting him outside, that would be good for 30 -40 minutes a day, but be sure it's not in a glass tank where temps. can be lethal. So keep the handling to a minimum, get some calcium in him, hydrate, live food like cricks or superworms, but only 4-5 large ones at a time. Nightcrawlers are O.K., but the stuff that they are sold in is questionable. Better to try the other insects, along with greens.

Hi again! Thanks. the bug according to pictures on the internet was NOT a mite. it looked with a tiny red ant. barely could see it and only one. I cleaned his cage when we first got him. but i forgot to bake his wood stuff that was in there just used hot water and let it dry...but I had never seen this bug before the crickets, and the local crap pet store we have also sold me worms that were supposed to be refrigerated and most were dead because I bought them from the shelf and most turned to dead beetles :( anyway going to order his food online, our neighbors (hick town lol) all around us sell crawlers. so we thought we could feed him that until we could get orders to come in. also what length of food can he eat. they say size between his eyes, but crawlers are much longer...
 

AHBD

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The rule of feeding no longer than the size between the eyes doesn't apply to soft feeders like hornworms, silkworms, or crawlers. You can try one for him....my dragons gobble them down like a spaghetti noodle [ only once in a great while, like in the winter if my mail order bugs come in dead and I'm desperate for food for them ] So he can have one....if you're worried, just cut it in half.
 

mrsphate

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our walmart did not have a prob thermometer, so I don't have one yet. They also had NO greens, so I bought cucumber and an apple and butternut squash. I did get calcium powder, they also didnn't have a light just the fluker"s daylight bulb. So still waiting on that too. They sAid the greens will be in tomorrow...
 

mrsphate

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destiny1998":386pzh2v said:
Hi. Is there any way you could take him outside for some natural sun? Until you get the uvb light. Mine like to sit in their own window with it open for hours. Anyway congrats on him.

Yes, I can just let him walk in the grass then or just hold him?
 

mrsphate

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You have been so helpful, so I rubbed some unpasteurized honey on his swollen part of eye and the lids. some dripped down and he was licking it from his mouth area before I wiped it off, I hope that is ok! no black beard at me, even after I sprayed out his eye and did that. :) he is now back in his tank trying to hide...not wanting any apple or green beans today, going to see how to do this squash for him in a bit.




mrsphate":18qik0ig said:
AHBD":18qik0ig said:
Hi again....well, some of the pics are showing up now, and I can't tell exactly, is his eye swollen shut and stained ? Hopefully the bulb change will help. I have used unpasteurized honey as an antibacterial/antibiotic for a severe eye wound on a dragon and it healed it very quickly. Well, the good news is that he is thin, but he's not emaciated....you CAN feed him live food, just don't go overboard ! The fact that he had an appetite to eat 20 worms is a GREAT sign, so don't be too upset. Of course mealworms aren't the best ones, but it's still great news that he ate. And also if he drank in the bath, that's also great. A bath every other day now will be fine, he will be hydrated more quickly because he is drinking. After a week, you can drop it to twice a week, so that will be less stressful. As for the crickets, just try hand feeding him one at a time, he was overwhelmed by the sheer number and just having the stress from the move to be interested in them, plus he can't move fast enough. For the tiny red bug, if you see it again, keep some veg. oil near his tank and drip some on the bug if you see it again. It was probably a mite, and he may have had them already. They don't usually come in with crickets, I've ordered hundreds of 1,000's of cricks over 20 years + never ever had a mite. As for his UVB exposure, Destiny mentioned getting him outside, that would be good for 30 -40 minutes a day, but be sure it's not in a glass tank where temps. can be lethal. So keep the handling to a minimum, get some calcium in him, hydrate, live food like cricks or superworms, but only 4-5 large ones at a time. Nightcrawlers are O.K., but the stuff that they are sold in is questionable. Better to try the other insects, along with greens.

Hi again! Thanks. the bug according to pictures on the internet was NOT a mite. it looked with a tiny red ant. barely could see it and only one. I cleaned his cage when we first got him. but i forgot to bake his wood stuff that was in there just used hot water and let it dry...but I had never seen this bug before the crickets, and the local crap pet store we have also sold me worms that were supposed to be refrigerated and most were dead because I bought them from the shelf and most turned to dead beetles :( anyway going to order his food online, our neighbors (hick town lol) all around us sell crawlers. so we thought we could feed him that until we could get orders to come in. also what length of food can he eat. they say size between his eyes, but crawlers are much longer...
 

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mrsphate":1u06rz30 said:
destiny1998":1u06rz30 said:
Hi. Is there any way you could take him outside for some natural sun? Until you get the uvb light. Mine like to sit in their own window with it open for hours. Anyway congrats on him.

Yes, I can just let him walk in the grass then or just hold him?


If you're gonna take him outside, I would hold him at first, he'll probably get a little scared. Otherwise, try to make a harness with a leash, this way he won't run away! And keep your eye on him, they are pretty quick!
 
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