Brumation for Fall?

TheBeard9789

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My Amber is normally extremely active and eats her greens crickets etc but hasn't been very active. She will sleep for a couple days & not come out to eat last time she was out active & eating was the 14th. Granted today she came out ate her greens her bugs and took a bath today but she will bask and probably sleep again

Should I be worried? Her temps at night 75-80 (normally 76) basking temp is 97-102 and her UVB is not even a month old. My Chubbs went through the same 2+ yrs ago and is doing the same thing now as Amber is but a tad more active. Is it worth a vet visit or should I let bearded dragons do what they do? Chubbs has a appointment the 17th which I will bring it up to the vet

Chubbs is a glutton and food will grab her attention but Amber knows her limit and won't overeat like Chubbs does
 

KarrieRee

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Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
My Amber is normally extremely active and eats her greens crickets etc but hasn't been very active. She will sleep for a couple days & not come out to eat last time she was out active & eating was the 14th. Granted today she came out ate her greens her bugs and took a bath today but she will bask and probably sleep again

Should I be worried? Her temps at night 75-80 (normally 76) basking temp is 97-102 and her UVB is not even a month old. My Chubbs went through the same 2+ yrs ago and is doing the same thing now as Amber is but a tad more active. Is it worth a vet visit or should I let bearded dragons do what they do? Chubbs has a appointment the 17th which I will bring it up to the vet

Chubbs is a glutton and food will grab her attention but Amber knows her limit and won't overeat like Chubbs does
Sounds like semi brumation --- keep track of her weight make sure shes hydrated offering water when she comes out -- sounds like normal behavior for this time of year
 

TheBeard9789

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Sounds like semi brumation --- keep track of her weight make sure shes hydrated offering water when she comes out -- sounds like normal behavior for this time of year
You have no idea how great that is to hear she definitely doesn't look like she is losing anything. I have really no experience with brumation so I'm learning bit by bit but I'm learning. My Chubbs did it and the vet said "wait till spring" so I kept her hydrated and fed. Soon as spring came she (Chubbs) ate everything insight 😅 after losing 30Gs of weight

I will get a book and scale and keep tabs on her and let her do her thing and just keep up with both of their bath times

Thank you
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
You have no idea how great that is to hear she definitely doesn't look like she is losing anything. I have really no experience with brumation so I'm learning bit by bit but I'm learning. My Chubbs did it and the vet said "wait till spring" so I kept her hydrated and fed. Soon as spring came she (Chubbs) ate everything insight 😅 after losing 30Gs of weight

I will get a book and scale and keep tabs on her and let her do her thing and just keep up with both of their bath times

Thank you
Wow that is a lot of weight for her to lose -- here is some articles on brumation
read the practical tips for sure ----- but definitely keep an eye on the weight --- I know they can lose weight but 30 grams seems like a lot ---- I dont know what the limit is for when to get concerned --- we need to find out so I am going to flag a few people who I think would know --
@AHBD
@Drache613
@CooperDragon
@Claudiusx
 

TheBeard9789

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Wow that is a lot of weight for her to lose -- here is some articles on brumation
read the practical tips for sure ----- but definitely keep an eye on the weight --- I know they can lose weight but 30 grams seems like a lot ---- I dont know what the limit is for when to get concerned --- we need to find out so I am going to flag a few people who I think would know --
@AHBD
@Drache613
@CooperDragon
@Claudiusx
This was a few years ago she was a pretty hefty weight the vet said it wasn't concerning. I took her for checkups to keep a eye on her weight and behavior she wasn't eating or being active. But I improved on the husbandry skills got the right day/night temps UVB etc. The vet said her loosing the weight was safe and necessary for her at that point in time
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
This was a few years ago she was a pretty hefty weight the vet said it wasn't concerning. I took her for checkups to keep a eye on her weight and behavior she wasn't eating or being active. But I improved on the husbandry skills got the right day/night temps UVB etc. The vet said her loosing the weight was safe and necessary for her at that point in time
ok
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Sorry I really hope that didn't sound rude I was just saying I took her often to the vet so he knew everything top to bottom but I'm interested in what others think
You werent rude just informative --- brumation is a tricky thing as we dont always know that is what is actually going on till we find out if the lighting is causing the issues - off lighting and temps can cause brumation similarities that is why we ask the questions we do when someone post on here w/ issues like that --- its always good to rule those out first --- then move on to other things
 

TheBeard9789

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You werent rude just informative --- brumation is a tricky thing as we dont always know that is what is actually going on till we find out if the lighting is causing the issues - off lighting and temps can cause brumation similarities that is why we ask the questions we do when someone post on here w/ issues like that --- its always good to rule those out first --- then move on to other things
Oh of course definitely I'm always learning it's why I post so much everyone is knowledgeable here. She was a rescue so she wasn't being taken care of properly when I got her. I freaked out and didn't understand what brumation was so I seen the vet often. She (Chubbs) had fecal samples calcium levels done husbandry specs all of that done. I learned to let her do her thing and feed her when she is active and bathe her to stay hydrate

I was also using a breeder tank at the time i was using T8s & not T5s for UVB but I upgraded at the advice from the vet
 

KarrieRee

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Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Oh of course definitely I'm always learning it's why I post so much everyone is knowledgeable here. She was a rescue so she wasn't being taken care of properly when I got her. I freaked out and didn't understand what brumation was so I seen the vet often. She (Chubbs) had fecal samples calcium levels done husbandry specs all of that done. I learned to let her do her thing and feed her when she is active and bathe her to stay hydrate

I was also using a breeder tank at the time i was using T8s & not T5s for UVB but I upgraded at the advice from the vet
And that is the advice you would of gotten here as well- just make sure you have it properly placed for your tank -- I think we went over that w / you is that correct?
 

TheBeard9789

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And that is the advice you would of gotten here as well- just make sure you have it properly placed for your tank -- I think we went over that w / you is that correct?
Yup just having a little difficulty with night temps being consistently 75 bc the heat fluctuates

It'll be 75-76 for a week and then it'll be 78-80 for a few days I also don't use any external heat
 

KarrieRee

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Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Yup just having a little difficulty with night temps being consistently 75 bc the heat fluctuates

It'll be 75-76 for a week and then it'll be 78-80 for a few days I also don't use any external heat
65-75 are good temps for night time --
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
I was told 65 would require a ceramic heat emitter I have used them before but I didn't know much back then

75 is do able we only really put the house heat on in the early morning to take the chill out
Your tank is going to go to house temps at night - so what ever that temp is in the morning that is what your tank is going to be
 

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